[Rumour] Friedman: Flames expected to sign European UFA C/RW Daniel Pribyl

[Reggie Dunlop]

Worst case scenario is that he gives Stockton some scoring Heat.

Whatever past Euro free agent signings by the Flames have little bearing. Pribyl does or he doesn't.

Low risk, high (or at least contributive to the cause) reward.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

Tomas Hertl 4 goal game against the Rangers 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRtXBt2hyjw

[Dajazz]

Considering our RW Depth, he could be a flaming pile of poo and it still wouldn't be a problem. Completely no risk situation, with minor exception - he takes up a contract spot.

[gunnner]

Originally Posted by Dajazz

Considering our RW Depth, he could be a flaming pile of poo and it still wouldn't be a problem. Completely no risk situation, with minor exception - he takes up a contract spot.

Not saying you directly, but in general I dont agree with this "no risk" comment that gets tossed around on here when evaluating any and every possible signing. Setegouchi was touted on here as a great signing because it was "no risk". It wasnt a good no risk signing, Jets and Wild fans knew there was nothing left there. It was a no reward signing.

The risk is you end up with to many bodies, A) and you let go the wrong guy (Byron over Raymond), or B) prospects get buried in the minors because they are waiver eligible that may have helped the team win. (Grant etc..).

[Itse]

Originally Posted by gunnner

Not saying you directly, but in general I dont agree with this "no risk" comment that gets tossed around on here when evaluating any and every possible signing. Setegouchi was touted on here as a great signing because it was "no risk". It wasnt a good no risk signing, Jets and Wild fans knew there was nothing left there. It was a no reward signing.

The risk is you end up with to many bodies, A) and you let go the wrong guy (Byron over Raymond), or B) prospects get buried in the minors because they are waiver eligible that may have helped the team win. (Grant etc..).

Agreed. "Low risk" is much more accurate.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by gunnner

Not saying you directly, but in general I dont agree with this "no risk" comment that gets tossed around on here when evaluating any and every possible signing. Setegouchi was touted on here as a great signing because it was "no risk". It wasnt a good no risk signing, Jets and Wild fans knew there was nothing left there. It was a no reward signing.

The risk is you end up with to many bodies, A) and you let go the wrong guy (Byron over Raymond), or B) prospects get buried in the minors because they are waiver eligible that may have helped the team win. (Grant etc..).

No risk is slight hyperbole, but extremely low risk is still accurate. Seto wasn't an issue outside of the first month of the season when they tried to get him going and failed.

[FlamesAddiction]

Using some of the logic in here, drafting or signing any player has "risk" associated with it.

If we were talking about signing late blooming junior or college players from Canada, I doubt anyone would be talking about "risk". Did anyone worry about the risk from sigining Jooris or Germyn?

It seems like the worriers only come out when the player is from Europe.

[sureLoss]

The Czech league finals is now tied 2-2. This will force a game 6 which will take place on April 24.

If a game 7 is necessary it will take place on April 26.

Which means the earliest a signing can be announced right now is April 24th after that game is done.

[Dajazz]

Originally Posted by gunnner

Not saying you directly, but in general I dont agree with this "no risk" comment that gets tossed around on here when evaluating any and every possible signing. Setegouchi was touted on here as a great signing because it was "no risk". It wasnt a good no risk signing, Jets and Wild fans knew there was nothing left there. It was a no reward signing.

The risk is you end up with to many bodies, A) and you let go the wrong guy (Byron over Raymond), or B) prospects get buried in the minors because they are waiver eligible that may have helped the team win. (Grant etc..).

Hence the minor exception, but I suppose you had to.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by gunnner

but in general I dont agree with this "no risk" comment that gets tossed around on here when evaluating any and every possible signing.

IMO the "risk" is so low that objecting to the term borders on nitpickery. I don't have an issue with labeling something that's an extremely low risk as "no risk"... although I do find it annoying when people append to that declaration a "reward" level as "high".

These guys are no/low risk lottory tickets... if they wash out you shrug because it barely cost anything, if you get a serviceable NHL'er you consider yourself lucky, if you hit a Panarin sized jackpot you do the Meposian dance of joy.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by gunnner

Not saying you directly, but in general I dont agree with this "no risk" comment that gets tossed around on here when evaluating any and every possible signing. Setegouchi was touted on here as a great signing because it was "no risk". It wasnt a good no risk signing, Jets and Wild fans knew there was nothing left there. It was a no reward signing.

The risk is you end up with to many bodies, A) and you let go the wrong guy (Byron over Raymond), or B) prospects get buried in the minors because they are waiver eligible that may have helped the team win. (Grant etc..).

They had plenty of roster spots even with Setoguchi. Byron wasn't let go over Raymond. They were both on waivers. And Setoguchi never prevented realistic opportunities for anyone at the time.

As for Pribyl, it's completely no risk because he's not a veteran like Setoguchi, who expects a spot on the team. He's a pro signing, and still young. If he makes the team ahead of someone else, that's on them.

[Da_Chief]

Spart leading game 5 2-1 early in the 2nd. Hopefully they win this and the next one.

Update: Sparta loses game 5. Final score 4-3. Game 6 in 2 days.

[MarkGio]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

They had plenty of roster spots even with Setoguchi. Byron wasn't let go over Raymond. They were both on waivers. And Setoguchi never prevented realistic opportunities for anyone at the time.

As for Pribyl, it's completely no risk because he's not a veteran like Setoguchi, who expects a spot on the team. He's a pro signing, and still young. If he makes the team ahead of someone else, that's on them.

I think too many bodies is bad for morale, just as we saw with the goalies. When a prospect sees 15-16 forwards all on two way contacts, or otherwise waiver ineligible, the prospect knows coming into camp that there's no chance at making the team. This is why so many free agents look at depth charts when making their decision.

[Strange Brew]

I am excited about the potential signing and hope he works out. I don't get too excited about the high risk/low risk classification. What we need are signings that result in players that make impact at the NHL level. Cervenka, Setoguchi etc. were low risk signings but produced very little. GM's get evaluated on their results, not on how little risk they took on IMO.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

I think too many bodies is bad for morale, just as we saw with the goalies. When a prospect sees 15-16 forwards all on two way contacts, or otherwise waiver ineligible, the prospect knows coming into camp that there's no chance at making the team. This is why so many free agents look at depth charts when making their decision.

Or maybe they have to get in better shape and outplay this guy. I seriously doubt whether they see Pribyl as a hands down lock to make the team. Who's feelings are you concerned about?

This is not the same as starting with 3 goalies on the NHL roster.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

This is not the same as starting with 3 goalies on the NHL roster.

It actually kind of is. The problem was that no goalie beat out any others. I think A)Treliving expected to trade one of them in the summer, B) If he couldn't he could after a good start from one of them and C) Ortio would look better enough than at least one of them to bury one in the A for the season.

[Da_Chief]

Sparta loses games 6 in double OT. Series over, season over. Pribyl free to sign now.

[sureLoss]

Pribyl's team has lost the finals 4-2. Flames should be free to sign him now. Might give him a couple days.

[MrMastodonFarm]

If I were the Flames I wouldn't sign him and take the pick. Third liner with inflated stats on the PP.

[Krynn]

MrMastodonFarm what pick are u talking about ?