[News] Calgary recalls Sam Bennett to the NHL

[GioforPM]

I have only ever heard of Bennett playing RW (aside from C of course).

I think posters who think he's on anything but the energy line are dreaming. He's in for Ferland, Granlund or Jooris (probably in that order). That's how Hartley rolls.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by Hackey

So if Bennett plays the remaining 3 games and a 7 game playoff series he would burn a year off his deal? That kind of sucks.

Oh!1! you bring up a great point, about his ELC & games played. I imagine this would be new territory for discussion.


canuck fans...

[Azure]

Playoff games don't count against his 9 games do they?

[CMPunk]

Originally Posted by Azure

Playoff games don't count against his 9 games do they?

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[442scotty]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

Why do you have to make room for a guy at game 80 of the season? You only play him at this point if you think he's an upgrade. He was a high draft pick and has worked hard all his life so now that he's technically able to play, you "must make room". That would make sense I guess except everyone else that is in the line up also worked hard all their life and paid their junior dues, so what do you do?

Also how does a playoff race not matter? Are you suggesting this team should not be concerned about whether they make it, only concerned about ensuring Bennett is given what he has apparently "earned".

You called him up so play him. He is an obvious upgrade over a lot of guys, He has earned his chance and he needs to get a couple of games in so hes ready for the playoffs. When the team made the choice to bring him up instead of send him to Addy they as much told him that he will be playing..

Unless you think that he isn't an upgrade... do you?

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by 442scotty

You called him up so play him. He is an obvious upgrade over a lot of guys, He has earned his chance and he needs to get a couple of games in so hes ready for the playoffs. When the team made the choice to bring him up instead of send him to Addy they as much told him that he will be playing..

Unless you think that he isn't an upgrade... do you?

Many players have been called up over the years just for experience, or plan B... I don't think anything is fixed but Bennett is probably here more for options and to get some experience. I would love to see him slotted in for Raymond, but I wouldn't take anyone else off the roster to play him.

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by 442scotty

You called him up so play him. He is an obvious upgrade over a lot of guys, He has earned his chance and he needs to get a couple of games in so hes ready for the playoffs. When the team made the choice to bring him up instead of send him to Addy they as much told him that he will be playing..

Unless you think that he isn't an upgrade... do you?

It's like a broken record in here, but someone who has yet to play a single NHL game is NEVER an obvious upgrade over guys that have. Chances are that he will be, but let's not put the cart before the horse.

I trust the coaching staff and management to do the right thing.

[GioforPM]

I don't think anyone is entitled to say Bennett is an "obvious upgrade" until they see him like Hartley does - in practice every day. He's certainly the best prospect for a long time, maybe ever, meaning he has a ton of potential. But he hasn't scored 30 like Monahan, over 20 like Gaudreau, Hudler, Raymond or Jones, or even one like Ferland. Let's give the kid a chance to establish himself before we anoint him as an upgrade over player X. That's creating expectations which may not be fulfilled right away. Heck, I remember lots of posters who figured either Sven or Poirier or Wolf were obvious upgrades over particular guys. And they weren't.

[GioforPM]

Wow. It's like I posted twice.

[Hackey]

I'm all for giving him experience but I'd prefer not using up a year of his deal if were playing him on the 3rd or 4th line and he isn't really contributing. I'm confident the Flames will do the right thing though.

[thymebalm]

I just don't understand the fan concern with burning a year of the ELC. If it happens it happens, but it only happens if he's out there giving the team a chance to make/win playoff games.

That's fair value in my opinion. If he's not contributing he won't get played and his ELC stays in tact. If he adds to the club, he deserves to be one step closer to free agency.

The concern shouldn't be what Bennett's cap hit is in 2020, it should be how do the 2014-2015 Calgary Flames make the dance.

[Anduril]

If he's contributing in 9 games, not a problem to burn that year especially with how important any of those games are. If not, sit him and let the rest of the team work it out.

[Vulcan]

I don't dislike Raymond but he'd be my choice to be replaced if Bennett draws in against the Coyotes. I'd like to leave the kid line of Ferland, Granlund and Jooris together.

[Mike F]

Originally Posted by 442scotty

You called him up so play him.

Signed,

Mr. & Mrs. Wotherspoon.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by 442scotty

You called him up so play him. He is an obvious upgrade over a lot of guys, He has earned his chance and he needs to get a couple of games in so hes ready for the playoffs. When the team made the choice to bring him up instead of send him to Addy they as much told him that he will be playing..

Unless you think that he isn't an upgrade... do you?

I think for the first handful of games while he adjusts to the NHL, especially as it relates to his defensive game and his awareness with out the puck, it is a huge question mark as to whether he is an upgrade.

A lot of very talented young players (his talent level is clearly an upgrade over many currently in the line up, that is not a question) struggle for the first portion of their careers while they learn the NHL game.

So yes, as it relates to the next 3 games of the season, where we are fighting for our playoff lives, I seriously question whether Bennett can step in and play as well as any of the players we are discussing replacing him with. Specifically, I worry he will become a defensive liability, while he adjusts to the NHL and actually take a roster spot from a player who can at least be "neutral" on the ice right now.

The fact that you rolled eyed that like it wasn't even a possibility suggests to me you might not understand what's at stake over the next 3 games, haven't watched what has occurred over the past couple years with the development curve of our other young talented players, or are drastically underestimating what some of our current roster players bring to the table, or all of the above.

Bennett is likely going to be a huge upgrade for this team in short order, that's not a question, the question right now is if he's going to be more likely use his amazing talent to help this team over the course of the next week, or if he's more likely to hurt the team for the next week as he adjusts to a level of game he's never played at before. It's not an easy question to answer, considering even this year we saw someone who is now one of our best and most talented players struggle to be a positive impact on the club in the first part of their NHL career (I'm talking about Gaudreau)

[jayswin]

At this point any discussion on Bennett's ELC has to be 100% joking from anyone who brings it up, right? Like seriously, it has to be.

[Flacker]

Bennett earned his spot in camp this year, and was praised as one of the best players in camp, with a bum shoulder.

He would have been a regular starter in October this year had he not required surgery. Whether or not he would have stayed up is pure speculation.

To say that Bennett hasn't earned his spot over most of the current roster is simply not true. He has earned his spot.

If you were to have an accident at work, take time off, recover and return, would you be expected to prove your worth to your employer again?

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Flacker

Bennett earned his spot in camp this year, and was praised as one of the best players in camp, with a bum shoulder.

He would have been a regular starter in October this year had he not required surgery. Whether or not he would have stayed up is pure speculation.

To say that Bennett hasn't earned his spot over most of the current roster is simply not true. He has earned his spot.

If you were to have an accident at work, take time off, recover and return, would you be expected to prove your worth to your employer again?

He "proved his worth" to be on the NHL roster; he is on the NHL roster.

Johnny started out as a depth player not getting PP/OT time and was a healthy scratch; I suspect Sam Bennett will probably start out on the 4th line as well, riding the pine.

From then on, he'll probably get put into the lineup when it makes sense, like any other rookie. All he "proved" was to make the NHL roster, not necessary to be in the lineup.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by Flacker

Bennett earned his spot in camp this year, and was praised as one of the best players in camp, with a bum shoulder.

He would have been a regular starter in October this year had he not required surgery. Whether or not he would have stayed up is pure speculation.

To say that Bennett hasn't earned his spot over most of the current roster is simply not true. He has earned his spot.

If you were to have an accident at work, take time off, recover and return, would you be expected to prove your worth to your employer again?

That would be "have an accident before work", having never actually put in a minute of actual work (but aced the training course). In those circumstances, where we don't know for sure how he will react, yes, he will need to prove himself, which I am confident he will do, eventually.

[Flacker]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

That would be "have an accident before work", having never actually put in a minute of actual work (but aced the training course). In those circumstances, where we don't know for sure how he will react, yes, he will need to prove himself, which I am confident he will do, eventually.

Yes his shoulder injury likely had nothing to do with playing hockey.

Having not put in a minute of work is how you would quantify junior hockey?

We are done here.