Who do we hope ends up GM?

[Goodlad]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

as a fan of the flames, i find it imperative and intelligent to more or less ignore whatever Eric Francis says/writes.

just my opinion of course.

And a combination of Eric Francis quoting anonymous sources is the lowest form of journalism.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

Here's how this plays out (or I want it to).

-Burke Stays on as GM for rest of the season and makes trades
-Button runs the draft and scouting for rest of the year
-Burke gets permission on Futa at the end of the year
-Futa gets the GM gig after the draft
-Futa fires Button and brings in his own guys as scouts
-Hartley and staff get fired
-Hires Bill Ranford as the new head coach

I like everything except Ranford.

[UKflames]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Per hope smoke twitter, McKenzie says search for new GM is going slow and that Burke is a big fan of Mike Futa.

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‏@Hope_Smoke
Mckenzie on TSN Radio "Flames are not moving quickly in their GM search. Other than Nieuwendyk Burke hasn't asked for permission for others"

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‏@Hope_Smoke
McKenzie "Burke really likes Mike Futa of the Kings. The Leafs were very close to hiring him prior to his going to LA"

I think the search for a new GM is all smoke and mirrors on BB's part and he really wants the job for himself or until he can find a puppet for the job.

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by UKflames

I think the search for a new GM is all smoke and mirrors on BB's part and he really wants the job for himself or until he can find a puppet for the job.

I don't think so. GMs are hired to be fired but to-date, no team has ever fired a President of Hockey Operations.

[Tinordi]

You simply don't take a risk on Jankowski when you're in the position that the Flames were. One of the big reasons Feaster and Weisbrod were both let go IMO.

The verdict hasn't gotten any better either what with the pace of his "development." Very unlikely he ever plays. He needed to basically double his production from last year to get in line with NHL-E levels of basic NHL players. He is at the same points pace as last year, no where near projecting to be a player let alone a top six player.

It's still too early to categorically call him a bust but it's never been closer. Unless he truly explodes next year then it's bust.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

You simply don't take a risk on Jankowski when you're in the position that the Flames were. One of the big reasons Feaster and Weisbrod were both let go IMO.

The verdict hasn't gotten any better either what with the pace of his "development." Very unlikely he ever plays. He needed to basically double his production from last year to get in line with NHL-E levels of basic NHL players. He is at the same points pace as last year, no where near projecting to be a player let alone a top six player.

It's still too early to categorically call him a bust but it's never been closer. Unless he truly explodes next year then it's bust.

Many people (myself included) were actually happy that Feaster made this type of selection. At 14, all the blue-chip prospects are taken. Now you are looking for diamonds in the rough. Flames scouted him intensively, and they thought the risk was worth it. I agree - he is looking more like a player at some capacity as he keeps putting on some mass, and less likely a complete bust.

Also, if you want to talk about his 'disappointing' season making you think he is a bust - why didn't you mention that he has already equaled his goal output from last season in less than half the games? You didn't ask yourself why he only has 2 assists? Perhaps his linemates just can't buy a goal. Watch him play - or at least read the scouting write-ups, and everyone says he is an excellent playmaker with vision - he should be racking up more assists than goals.

Everyone was crying that the Flames didn't draft TT - well, though he is looking like he is closer to the NHL, he has been a project himself. He also doesn't look like he will ever play center. Maatta would have been nice - but again, hindsight is hindsight. Flames could have also drafted Samuelsson or Gaunce too.

High-ceiling players are still in very short supply in the Flames' system. I am glad they took the risk. He is looking more and more like a player in some capacity, and often outside the top 10 picks, you are happy to just get a warm body on the team in time. He can still very well become an impact first or second line player - his age and development arc is NOT bad in the least, and he is in no way trending towards 'bust' status.

[bubbsy]

still way too soon to be judging Jankowski. I would be more open to discussion on that pick by the end of this season or maybe even next season.

last year was a huge jump for him, this year's his first year at center in college. Plus as a young guy, having a few years of college/NHL level trainer attention should hopefully have helped him bulk up by next year.

Maybe i'm just more willing to deal with the excuses, as i was happy that the flames tried to go out and find a high risk/reward type guy, who may be part of the solution they have been looking for, for 20 years mind you, at the center position.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

It's still too early to categorically call him a bust but it's never been closer. Unless he truly explodes next year then it's bust.

You can't call him a bust until he fails at being a pro. Calling him a bust before he is done college is nothing short of stupidity.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

You simply don't take a risk on Jankowski when you're in the position that the Flames were. One of the big reasons Feaster and Weisbrod were both let go IMO.

The verdict hasn't gotten any better either what with the pace of his "development." Very unlikely he ever plays. He needed to basically double his production from last year to get in line with NHL-E levels of basic NHL players. He is at the same points pace as last year, no where near projecting to be a player let alone a top six player.

It's still too early to categorically call him a bust but it's never been closer. Unless he truly explodes next year then it's bust.

I agree. The Flames were prospect poor at the time and taking a stretch with the first rounder was not that wise in hindsight. Ceci, Hertl, Ternavienan, or Maata/Sieloff would have been the way to go.

Janko could pan out and save face for Feaster down the road but at the draft and a year and a half later it looked like a bad move

[Enoch Root]

Flames needed centre prospects. Feaster and co did what they thought they had to do to acquire one.

To say that was a bad move or overly risky is just crying over spilt milk (and the milk hasn't even spilt yet)

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Didn't see this posted but I think it goes in this thread...
http://www.calgaryherald.com/sports/...963/story.html

He doesn't want to be the GM, though the GM is pretty clearly going to be building Burke's team.

love the hair quote

I heard they were talking about it on TSN,” he said. “My first reaction, I thought my daughter was cute — she’s funny. But if my hair is a subject, it’s a slow news day. And second, the fact I now know it aggravates people, I’m probably not going to get it cut.”

I still hope the find someone fast. There is way to much work in the next 3 months for 1 guy with no team around him, no matter who the guy is.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by Bend it like Bourgeois

I still hope the find someone fast. There is way to much work in the next 3 months for 1 guy with no team around him, no matter who the guy is.

No team around him? Burke only fired Feaster and Weisbrod. He could easily handle things until the summer. He still has Holditch, Conroy, Mike Burke and the entire scouting staff.

[Stanley]

Originally Posted by Fire

No team around him? Burke only fired Feaster and Weisbrod. He could easily handle things until the summer. He still has Holditch, Conroy, Mike Burke and the entire scouting staff.

whoa, whoa, whoa....we have 2 Burkes?!

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Flames needed centre prospects. Feaster and co did what they thought they had to do to acquire one.

To say that was a bad move or overly risky is just crying over spilt milk (and the milk hasn't even spilt yet)

Flames needed D prospects just as badly. It is not crying over split milk it is debating if the pick was one of the key reasons Feaster was let go. It is hard to fault the other 4 first round picks Jay made and his drafting was one of the reasons he was let go

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Originally Posted by Fire

No team around him? Burke only fired Feaster and Weisbrod. He could easily handle things until the summer. He still has Holditch, Conroy, Mike Burke and the entire scouting staff.

Sure, I meant leadership team. Burke guys who already get and share what he wants.

all those guys you mentioned have their jobs to do, plus re-orient themselves and their staffs around Burke's vision (inevitably easy for some, but not for all). I don't mean that as a knock, just a reality of dealing with change.

Even if Burke is acting GM and had his AGM in place, it would still be a ton of work to get pro and amateur scouts clear on what he likes, get ready for the deadline, the draft, and free agency. Add in Burke's Olympic commitments and it gets harder.

If he waits until summer then the next 3-6 months will be Burke shooting from the hip and the organization fumbling around trying to keep up. Hiring the wrong guy is worse, so there is no easy answer. But since it is already going to be Burke's team he really just needs someone he can work with. My 2 cents.

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Flames needed centre prospects. Feaster and co did what they thought they had to do to acquire one.

To say that was a bad move or overly risky is just crying over spilt milk (and the milk hasn't even spilt yet)

Your logic is that because we picked a center when we needed one we can't be critical of the pick?

Why not?

What if we picked the wrong center, like I don't know, Scott Laughton? We still can't be critical?

It was a bad pick and I laid out my reasons for saying so. By all means justify why you think it was a good pick but don't try to paint the other side of the argument as whining because it sure looks like Burke agrees with me.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Your logic is that because we picked a center when we needed one we can't be critical of the pick?

Why not?

What if we picked the wrong center, like I don't know, Scott Laughton? We still can't be critical?

It was a bad pick and I laid out my reasons for saying so. By all means justify why you think it was a good pick but don't try to paint the other side of the argument as whining because it sure looks like Burke agrees with me.

How the hell do you know that? It may just end up being a bad pick but the guy is in his second year of college hockey. Everyone has said he will take longer time to develop. Why not wait before making assumptions based on nothing? Please tell us how many times you've seen him play.

[Tinordi]

Right on schedule the "have you seen him play" argument shows up.

And how do I know it? I don't know it of course just as you don't know it was a good pick. But it's something to talk about right?

Reminds me of when people who said Nemisz was a bad pick. They were called out in the same way.

[bax]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Flames needed D prospects just as badly. It is not crying over split milk it is debating if the pick was one of the key reasons Feaster was let go. It is hard to fault the other 4 first round picks Jay made and his drafting was one of the reasons he was let go

Don't forget we also got Sieloff out of that trade. I think he's gonna be a player for sure. Disappointing year so far due to that infection though, can't wait to see him play some more.

[$ven27]

Should've taken Maatta.