2013 World Championships

[moon]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

Why do the hot shots on other teams find a way to win?

There isn't many (any?) hotshots on the other teams left outside of Sweden.

[Stay Golden]

blessing in disguise i don't want Stevie Y or whom ever to consider Ruff, Tippett, Trotz for the Sochi jobs.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

Why do the hot shots on other teams find a way to win?

After Canada, Sweden probably has the most nhl´ers on their roster: The Sisters, Ericsson, both goalies, Tallinder, Edler come to mind. Probably around half a dozen players overseas so most of the team is still from Europe. Other than that I don´t think there are that many on other teams. Finland for example has one, Korpikoski. Lol.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by Saqe

After Canada, Sweden probably has the most nhl´ers on their roster: The Sisters, Ericsson, both goalies, Tallinder, Edler come to mind. Probably around half a dozen players overseas so most of the team is still from Europe. Other than that I don´t think there are that many on other teams. Finland for example has one, Korpikoski. Lol.

Two if you count Mikael Granlund. (He joined mid-tournament.)

[Haplo]

Originally Posted by Saqe

After Canada, Sweden probably has the most nhl´ers on their roster: The Sisters, Ericsson, both goalies, Tallinder, Edler come to mind. Probably around half a dozen players overseas so most of the team is still from Europe. Other than that I don´t think there are that many on other teams. Finland for example has one, Korpikoski. Lol.

The Czechs had a dozen NHL-players on their roster. USA probably have a lot more than Sweden as well. I think no more than 3 players on the Swedish team are locks for the Olympic team next year: Sedins + Eriksson.

I'm shocked but pleased we won today. We have a terrible track record against Canada. Gonna be a great game at home against the arch rivals Finland now

[Resolute 14]

That's what happens when you allow hockey games to be decided by a process no different than a random number generator.

[Flame Of Liberty]

If Canada loses its because of a part of the game I don't like or because Canada didn't care enough to win in the first place.

[Locke]

Good on the Swedes.

The Canadians coasted through this tournament like a joke. Just like they have the last few tournaments and it might take a few slaps to the face to wake them up. The players were bad (mostly Oilers...), the coaching was bad and the team was bad.

You cant win if you're not taking it seriously.

PK flew to Sweden for one game? Where does Hockey Canada get its budget?

[devo22]

Flames prospect Reto Berra will play in net for Switzerland in the semifinals vs the United States.

Link (in German): http://www.luzernerzeitung.ch/sport/...art2047,262114

[Itse]

Originally Posted by devo22

Flames prospect Reto Berra will play in net for Switzerland in the semifinals vs the United States.

Link (in German): http://www.luzernerzeitung.ch/sport/...art2047,262114

A good sign, considering how well Gerber has played. Obviously the Swiss coach has a lot of faith in Berra.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Itse

A good sign, considering how well Gerber has played. Obviously the Swiss coach has a lot of faith in Berra.

yeah I was surprised too. But both Gerber and Berra have been very good:

Gerber: 4-0-0, 1.38 GAA, .940% svs
Berra: 3-0-0, 1.33 GAA, .957% svs

Berra had a bit of an easier schedule than Gerber, but you can't go wrong with any of them, really.

[Erick Estrada]

Not sure why so many whine about the shootout. It's been part of international hockey forever and just because it doesn't suit what us North Americans prefer doesn't make it a stupid way to end a hockey game as it's what the rest of the world uses. At the end of the day the rules are the same for everyone and Canada lost. Excuses are for losers unless I am preaching to Canucks fans here then it's par for the course.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty

If Canada loses its because of a part of the game I don't like or because Canada didn't care enough to win in the first place.

Well good thing people were talking about this before the tournament and while Canada was winning in the preliminary round and have been complaining about the since its inception so that winning or losing has nothing to do with it.

But I am sure you will keep trying to push your BS agenda.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Not sure why so many whine about the shootout. It's been part of international hockey forever and just because it doesn't suit what us North Americans prefer doesn't make it a stupid way to end a hockey game as it's what the rest of the world uses. At the end of the day the rules are the same for everyone and Canada lost. Excuses are for losers unless I am preaching to Canucks fans here then it's par for the course.

The shootout isn't that old. It was only introduced in the 90s in international hockey. 1992 I believe. Canada-Germany Quarterfinal in Albertville might be the first hockey shootout ever, I'd have to double check that.

Before that there were no elimination games, the tournament was either a big round robin group with the winner getting gold or qualifiers advancing into a smaller final round group. I remember attending the 88 Olympics in the last game where Finland beat the Soviets in the final game to win Silver!

Canada Cups always had regular 5-on-5 unlimited overtime.

It's a stupid way to end a hockey game because it is unnecessary. Hockey games can go longer, it's been proven in the NHL playoffs. In fact most people prefer it and they are usually cheering for a longer overtime in a game between neutral teams. Everyone feels cheated after a shootout.

Shootouts only work in soccer because in the past the alternative was to replay the entire game 3 days later which was more stupid. Soccer cannot go any longer so they must solve it by a shootout. Everyone hates it but there is no other alternative.

Soccer has a shootout due to it being a necessary evil. Hockey has a shootout by choice.

[BigFlameDog]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Not sure why so many whine about the shootout. It's been part of international hockey forever and just because it doesn't suit what us North Americans prefer doesn't make it a stupid way to end a hockey game as it's what the rest of the world uses. At the end of the day the rules are the same for everyone and Canada lost. Excuses are for losers unless I am preaching to Canucks fans here then it's par for the course.

Posting an opinion is not whining...I personally didn't use it as an excuse. I would rather see overtime in "loser goes home" games, leave it all out there. I don't care what the rest of the planet uses....IMO games in the playoffs, of every sport I care about, should go until someone wins.

So IMO it's friggin' stupid.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

The shootout isn't that old. It was only introduced in the 90s in international hockey. 1992 I believe. Canada-Germany Quarterfinal in Albertville might be the first hockey shootout ever, I'd have to double check that.

Before that there were no elimination games, the tournament was either a big round robin group with the winner getting gold or qualifiers advancing into a smaller final round group. I remember attending the 88 Olympics in the last game where Finland beat the Soviets in the final game to win Silver!

Canada Cups always had regular 5-on-5 unlimited overtime.

It's a stupid way to end a hockey game because it is unnecessary. Hockey games can go longer, it's been proven in the NHL playoffs. In fact most people prefer it and they are usually cheering for a longer overtime in a game between neutral teams. Everyone feels cheated after a shootout.

Shootouts only work in soccer because in the past the alternative was to replay the entire game 3 days later which was more stupid. Soccer cannot go any longer so they must solve it by a shootout. Everyone hates it but there is no other alternative.

Soccer has a shootout due to it being a necessary evil. Hockey has a shootout by choice.

Canada cup is was created by the NHL and Hockey Canada and has followed NHL rules. I don't really care about any arguments against it. It's a moot point. The bottom line is that it's part of the rules and if you don't like it don't watch. It gets tiring hearing Canadian fans whine everytime the country loses a shootout. We all knew prior to the tournament that is was possible the team would be in a shootout in an important game so why using it as a crutch when we lose according to the rules of the tournament? Loser excuses end of story.

[Eric Vail]

Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty

If Canada loses its because of a part of the game I don't like or because Canada didn't care enough to win in the first place.

I don't think it is fair to dump on the players who went for being lazy or not caring. All of them just finished disappointing seasons, and rather than getting their golf clubs out and starting their holidays, like most of their NHL bretheran, they flew overseas to play in a tournament for Canada.

If we are going to dump on players, I always think it should be those who were good enough to have gone and made a difference, but are golfing instead.

All of this said, you see Staal suffer a major injury in a tournament where he is playing for free - one that could have a major impact on the rest of his career. f I were a player, I don't know if I'd be willing to risk tens of millions of dollars in future earnings to play in the freaking world championships.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

It's a stupid way to end a hockey game because it is unnecessary. Hockey games can go longer, it's been proven in the NHL playoffs.

You can´t compare nhl playoffs to a tournament with single game eliminations. The schedule is really tight in the tournament and with a single game elimination system a long over-time game would result in awful disadvantage for a team. Especially in the bronze and gold medal games when they are played within 24hrs of the semi-finals.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

I don't think it is fair to dump on the players who went for being lazy or not caring. All of them just finished disappointing seasons, and rather than getting their golf clubs out and starting their holidays, like most of their NHL bretheran, they flew overseas to play in a tournament for Canada.

If we are going to dump on players, I always think it should be those who were good enough to have gone and made a difference, but are golfing instead.

All of this said, you see Staal suffer a major injury in a tournament where he is playing for free - one that could have a major impact on the rest of his career. f I were a player, I don't know if I'd be willing to risk tens of millions of dollars in future earnings to play in the freaking world championships.

I think his post was mocking posters that followed the tournament and when team Canada loses they say it was because of the shootout or that it's a crappy tournament that Canada didn't care about the tournament anyway.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

I don't think it is fair to dump on the players who went for being lazy or not caring. All of them just finished disappointing seasons, and rather than getting their golf clubs out and starting their holidays, like most of their NHL bretheran, they flew overseas to play in a tournament for Canada.

If we are going to dump on players, I always think it should be those who were good enough to have gone and made a difference, but are golfing instead.

All of this said, you see Staal suffer a major injury in a tournament where he is playing for free - one that could have a major impact on the rest of his career. f I were a player, I don't know if I'd be willing to risk tens of millions of dollars in future earnings to play in the freaking world championships.

If the World Championships is just going to be half-hearted lark for a few NHLers who want something to do in May besides play golf, I'd just as soon we send a team made up of European-based Canadians. And I'm starting to miss the old Canadian National Team. At least they were a team, they were used to the big ice, they played a system, and the World Championships were a big deal to them.

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I think his post was mocking posters that followed the tournament and when team Canada loses they say it was because of the shootout or that it's a crappy tournament that Canada didn't care about the tournament anyway.

I don't hear European fans complaining that the WJC isn't fair when it's hosted in North America because of the small ice. Sniveling about this stuff just enhances our reputation as poor losers.