12-01-2015, 06:12 PM
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#301
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Join Date: Sep 2002
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Originally Posted by Flacker
Not that big of a stretch. I, as well, have issue with our provincial leader, being married to the leader of the largest union in Alberta. Should any strike, or work to rule action be taken, on the part of the union, does the premier exclude herself from any negotiations?
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Yes, to avoid a conflict of interest she would have to exclude herself from negotiations. If she didn't THEN she would have a conflict of interest. Have there been any premiers involved in contract negotiations with unions? Isn't that the domain of Service Alberta?
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12-01-2015, 06:28 PM
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#302
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Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Does she even have one redeeming quality? Amazing how such a morally corrupt person could go as high as she did. My issue is that lots of people knew what she was about but kept their mouths shut in fear of their jobs. What ever happened to having a conscience and doing the right thing for the people?
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Really? Morally corrupt people often do quite well in that regard.
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08-04-2016, 10:18 PM
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Norm!
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Teflon Annie Redford, will probably get away with it again, she has friends in high places.
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08-05-2016, 03:57 AM
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#305
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What is with the NDP and outsourcing work to BC? Is our own Government so incompetent that they don't have their own people that could look into this matter?
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08-05-2016, 06:05 AM
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#307
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by calgarygeologist
What is with the NDP and outsourcing work to BC? Is our own Government so incompetent that they don't have their own people that could look into this matter?
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See above - the AB ethics commissioner is friends with some people involved, so she is in a conflict. She was appointed by the PCs, perhaps Redford herself - I cannot remember exactly when.
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08-05-2016, 06:56 AM
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#308
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by calgarygeologist
What is with the NDP and outsourcing work to BC? Is our own Government so incompetent that they don't have their own people that could look into this matter?
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Yeah, this is one case where the NDP aren't involved. It was our own Ethics Commissioner herself who outsourced it to BC due to her own conflict of interest.
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08-05-2016, 07:24 AM
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First Line Centre
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Which is rather.... ethical
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08-05-2016, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler
See above - the AB ethics commissioner is friends with some people involved, so she is in a conflict. She was appointed by the PCs, perhaps Redford herself - I cannot remember exactly when.
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I obviously misread things early this morning (I should have stayed asleep.) When I first read it I thought our ethics commissioner was friends with Paul Fraser which is why he was getting the job.
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08-05-2016, 08:44 AM
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Norm!
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Man when people look back on Alberta History they're going to read up on Redford and see the modern day embodiment of Palpatine.
Corrupt, Nasty and her downfall will have destroyed this province.
If only we could have thrown her down a bottomless pit with no handrails into a nuclear reactor.
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08-05-2016, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Man when people look back on Alberta History they're going to read up on Redford and see the modern day embodiment of Palpatine.
Corrupt, Nasty and her downfall will have destroyed this province.
If only we could have thrown her down a bottomless pit with no handrails into a nuclear reactor.
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08-05-2016, 03:29 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: The wagon's name is "Gaudreau"
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Man when people look back on Alberta History they're going to read up on Redford and see the modern day embodiment of Palpatine.
Corrupt, Nasty and her downfall will have destroyed this province.
If only we could have thrown her down a bottomless pit with no handrails into a nuclear reactor.
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I am of the belief that she is the sole reason the NDP are in power. We really had no choice. It was pretty much a choice between incompetent (NDP) and corrupt and incompetent (PC). Ugh maybe I should have voted Liberal...
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08-05-2016, 03:31 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Man when people look back on Alberta History they're going to read up on Redford and see the modern day embodiment of Palpatine.
Corrupt, Nasty and her downfall will have destroyed this province.
If only we could have thrown her down a bottomless pit with no handrails into a nuclear reactor.
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Whoa, whoa, CC.
There were handrails.
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08-05-2016, 03:39 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Originally Posted by Teh_Bandwagoner
I am of the belief that she is the sole reason the NDP are in power. We really had no choice. It was pretty much a choice between incompetent (NDP) and corrupt and incompetent (PC). Ugh maybe I should have voted Liberal...
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The other people to blame are the bigots in the Wild Rose party who refused to pass their tolerance resolution. Which led to smith leaving and destroying them as a credible alternative.
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08-05-2016, 03:48 PM
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#316
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Teh_Bandwagoner
I am of the belief that she is the sole reason the NDP are in power. We really had no choice. It was pretty much a choice between incompetent (NDP) and corrupt and incompetent (PC). Ugh maybe I should have voted Liberal...
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I don't think she is the sole reason, but she is the biggest.
All Jim Prentice had to do was show a little humility on behalf of the PCs, and Redford would have been water under the bridge. Instead, he doubled down on the arrogance - his general holier than thou attitude, buying Smith and Anderson in exchange for cabinet positions and then trying to take advantage of the Wildrose being in disarray with a snap election call. And it backfired spectacularly given nobody ever thought the NDP was a viable alternative.
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08-05-2016, 03:52 PM
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Norm!
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Man, Redford started the destruction of the PC's, but Prentice was the cleansing nuclear fire with a hint of sweet release of death.
As soon as he did the "Math is Hard thing with Notley that election was over"
Of course sadly we now realize that he was right all along.
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08-06-2016, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Teh_Bandwagoner
I am of the belief that she is the sole reason the NDP are in power. We really had no choice. It was pretty much a choice between incompetent (NDP) and corrupt and incompetent (PC). Ugh maybe I should have voted Liberal...
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We the voters are the sole reason that the NDP are in power. That election shouldn't have even happened. Our government fell over a $45,000 travel expense. Getting back that $45,000 (assuming that Redford kept her word and paid the money back) will cost Albertans billions.
Maybe we as society could save a lot of money and be much better off in the long run if we just concede the fact that our leaders need to travel all over the world and that costs money.
Now, I realize that Redford is a perfect example of a politician with a bull#### sense of entitlement. But in this instance I don't think that taking a private jet to Ottawa so she could catch a flight to Nelson Mandellas' funeral (whom she had had history with) was even close to being out of line.
We are becoming a society of finger pointing Rick Bell type ninnys. Ya know what? If the king and queen of Zimbabwe just happen to show up at Allison Redfords' hotel room and then his majesty orders an eight dollar orange juice we the Alberta tax-payers can find a way to cover it. If the king comments on how good the orange juice tastes then order a dozen more glasses because the queen and all of the secret service agents might enjoy a glass as well. No big deal. Same thing for Notley. She should be able to have all the eight dollar orange juice she wants.
And to the PC government being corrupt and incompetent. O.K., I'll give you corrupt. But incompetent? I have read every page on this thread and as far as I can tell there hasn't been one negative comment about her policies. Not one.
The biggest difference between Allison Redfords' government and Rachael Notleys' is that the PCs at least were able give off the impression that they had somewhat of a clue.
Enjoy your $45,000 Albertans. It will cost us billions. This is a decision that we made. Seems like a really bad way to get $45,000 to me.
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08-06-2016, 08:16 AM
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#319
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But understanding policy is hard. Numbers are boring. Moral judgement and villification? Now that's something a voter can get onboard with.
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08-06-2016, 10:14 AM
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#320
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Yeah there's no doubt she was a terrible PM. One of the worst ever but the Albertans that voted NDP need to look in the mirror when they start bitching about the state of the province. It's kind of funny but I notice a room or message board gets very quiet when someone asks who voted NDP. I mean if you are to embarrassed to admit it then why did you do it isn't the first place? At least the people that mistakenly voted Liberal in the federal election like to wear it proud that they thwarted the evil Steven Harper to hand over the country to junior who's in way over his head. Man up and accept your mistakes people!
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