[GDT] Boston Red Sox (0-3) at Toronto Blue Jays (2-1) April 9th-11th

[403ep3]

I hope joey bats gets back into his groove soon!

[Machiavelli]

Crap! Forgot there was an afternoon game today

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by The Big Chill

He gets the save because the tying run was 2nd base when he entered.

With the final being 3-1 woudn't he still get the save for finishing the game with a 2 run lead? IIRC if you come into a game with a 3 or fewer run lead and you close it out it's a save.

The only time it strays are if the pitcher came into a game with the tying run in the on deck circle and records the final out of the game. So if there are two outs and the bases are loaded in a 8-3 game the pitcher would get the save.

Also the old time save of relief pitcher comes into the game with the lead and throws the final 3 innings.

[VERVE]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

Crap! Forgot there was an afternoon game today

Rats, me too. I really wanted to see the aces battle. Glad to see Lester was beaten. He has had the Jays number for awhile now. Read Romero pitched a gem and Santos got his first save. We took the series against the Bosox that makes it 2 series out of 2 the Jays has won.

[The Big Chill]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

With the final being 3-1 woudn't he still get the save for finishing the game with a 2 run lead? IIRC if you come into a game with a 3 or fewer run lead and you close it out it's a save.

The only time it strays are if the pitcher came into a game with the tying run in the on deck circle and records the final out of the game. So if there are two outs and the bases are loaded in a 8-3 game the pitcher would get the save.

Also the old time save of relief pitcher comes into the game with the lead and throws the final 3 innings.

When Santos came in the game for the home opener it was a 3 run lead, but he didn't get the save because he only recorded the final 2 outs. If there was a runner on when he came in, then it would have been a save since the tying run would have been on deck.

Odd rules. I never actually knew them until today when I did a quick google search.

[Matty81]

Just watched the game after work - man how do you take Rajai out of the lineup right now, I'm not a fan of him as an everyday player but he should be involved in every game as a pinch runner and defensive replacement for Thames, what an amazing asset he is to have on the bench.

Santos - bad couple games but credit where credit is due today. You probably couldn't earn a tougher save against a tougher team. Striking out a guy like Youkilis who has such an amazing OBP in that situation is playoffs clutch.

Romero and the whole rotation are looking amazing right now. Too bad it is a 4 man rotation is all. Imagine this rotation with Garza or Billingsley?

[VERVE]

Originally Posted by The Big Chill

When Santos came in the game for the home opener it was a 3 run lead, but he didn't get the save because he only recorded the final 2 outs. If there was a runner on when he came in, then it would have been a save since the tying run would have been on deck.

Odd rules. I never actually knew them until today when I did a quick google search.

Are you talking about this game? They were leading by 2 runs (?) when Santos came in. I looked at the MLB box scores and it credited Santos with a save...?

[The Big Chill]

Originally Posted by VERVE

Are you talking about this game? They were leading by 2 runs (?) when Santos came in. I looked at the MLB box scores and it credited Santos with a save...?

He didn't get the save in the home opener because we were up by 3 and he only got 2 outs.

He got the save today because when he came in the game we were up by 2 and the tying run was on the bases.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by The Big Chill

He didn't get the save in the home opener because we were up by 3 and he only got 2 outs.

He got the save today because when he came in the game we were up by 2 and the tying run was on the bases.

I think you have the home opener mixed up with the season opener. Now it makes sense.

Santos got no save in the first game of the season because he recorded the final 2 outs with them holding a 3 run lead. Tying run was not in the on deck circle when he entered the game.

He blew the save in the second game because he came in with the team leading and surrendered the tying run.

He blew the save in the home opener because he had a lead when he entered the game (2-1) and ended up with the loss

The game on Tuesday ended up being 7-3 , but there was no save because It was a 7-1 game when Casey Jansen came in, and he gave up 2 runs, but got all the outs.

Today Santos gets the save because he recorded the final out of the game with a 2 run lead. With a base runner and the on deck hitter tying run was potentially at the plate.

Nice to see him bounce back today. Whether you agree with closers or not, any RP is served to have a short memory and forget a bad outing. Often closers struggle because they let the mental things get to them.

[The Big Chill]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

I think you have the home opener mixed up with the season opener. Now it makes sense.

Santos got no save in the first game of the season because he recorded the final 2 outs with them holding a 3 run lead. Tying run was not in the on deck circle when he entered the game.

He blew the save in the second game because he came in with the team leading and surrendered the tying run.

He blew the save in the home opener because he had a lead when he entered the game (2-1) and ended up with the loss

The game on Tuesday ended up being 7-3 , but there was no save because It was a 7-1 game when Casey Jansen came in, and he gave up 2 runs, but got all the outs.

Today Santos gets the save because he recorded the final out of the game with a 2 run lead. With a base runner and the on deck hitter tying run was potentially at the plate.

Nice to see him bounce back today. Whether you agree with closers or not, any RP is served to have a short memory and forget a bad outing. Often closers struggle because they let the mental things get to them.

Ya that's my mistake. I got those two games mixed up in my mind somehow. It definitely makes a conversation easier when we are talking about the same thing.