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Old 10-19-2011, 02:49 PM   #301
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What a fantastic, complete performance by the All Blacks.

My favourite moment was near the end of the match, where the All Blacks forced another turnover at scrum time and Brad Thorn couldn't contain his emotion. Raw passion from a man who will be playing his last match as an All Black next week.



One more.
Australia just didn't show up at all

Was happy for Brad Thorn, had a couple of beers with him when he used to play league for the Brisbane Broncos but besides that I was yelling at the tv.
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Old 10-21-2011, 02:23 PM   #302
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Watched the Wales vs Australia lastnight. Too bad Wales lost they gave it everything. It was an extremely bloody match on both sides. Wales penalty kicking again let them down finally they gave Hook the hook but not soon enough. Terrible to blow easy kicks like that. They definatly missed Preistland on that position the last 2 games.

Close back and forth game untill right to end. Solid match. 21-18
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Old 10-21-2011, 03:00 PM   #303
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You can't have a kicker named HOOK
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Old 10-21-2011, 06:44 PM   #304
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Kiwi-born, ex-Calgarian here living in New Zealand. Good to see that Canada's FINALLY starting to show the rugby. Me and the missus only got to one of the Canadian games and it was against the All Blacks. I promised my Canadian wife I wouldn't take sides (Did anyway though) and wore my Flames jersey. I got heckled to hell from Canucks fans, from Royal Oak in Calgary. I was hating life until he spilt his four $7 beers all over his junk, then it wasn't so bad.

Anyway, paying my respects, my All Blacks are up tonight and we need to stomp the hell out of the French because they've actually said in the newspaper today that they're going to target our captain's injured foot and try to get him taken off. The coach said that. Sick #######. Hope they choke on their pre-match garlic.
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Old 10-22-2011, 08:03 PM   #305
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That doesn'[t surprise me.

The french know that if the All Blacks come out focused and maintain focus, this is over early. If they can get the All Blacks to lose focus, it is their only hope.

I hope the All Blacks put in one for the ages tonight, and win by 100 points. No mercy tonight.
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Yeah, kick the piss out of them All Blacks.
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Old 10-22-2011, 08:10 PM   #307
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All Blacks by about 60!
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Old 10-22-2011, 08:44 PM   #308
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Anyone know a good place to watch the finals?
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Old 10-23-2011, 12:45 AM   #309
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I must be in the minority as I'm cheering for France tonight.

While New Zealand is a good team and playing at home, France isn't exactly a schlep team and have a very similar record in this tournament historically.

Plus, New Zealand has breezed through this tournament where France has had to get dirty and actually play a full game in order to win. They have a trainer whose been fired effective the end of the tournament after a previous loss in the round robin and since then have pretty much fought to get every win they have.
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Old 10-23-2011, 01:24 AM   #310
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^ Not sure about the comment that France has had to play a full fame in order to win. Having watched all of France's matches I can say that the most consistent period of rugby they played was in the first half against England in the QF. They have yet to play at a consistently high-level for 80 minutes. The fitness of both Japan and Canada was a critical factor in France's pool wins over each side. They both tired around the 65 minute mark which allowed the French to run in a few late tries and exaggerate the scoreline. In both of those matches les Bleus were second best for long periods of time. They were taken apart by a much superior All Black side and were made to defend for the entire match, hardly having the ball in attack and when they did, were bereft of ideas. Then came the Tonga debacle.

France were decent in chunks (1st half) against England, and still they left it late and England had many chances at the end of the match when France decided that 70 minutes of rugby was enough. And the French were positively but dreadful against Wales.

No I don't think that France has had to fight anything here. Sometimes in tournaments you get sides that luck out with the draw and advance deeply without really playing a decent match along the way. The only thing that this side has been fighting have been themselves and their coach.

Historically France have been a wonderfully attacking team. Their game was always based around having a good scrum, and backs with attacking flair, which traditionally made France the neutrals' favourite in previous World Cups. Unfortunately this side has not endeared themselves to the neutral fan, which is why many (most) are decidedly in support of NZ. In Cups past I'd have had no problem cheering for a side with the likes of Serge Blanco, Papa Benazzi and Fabien Pelous. But not this particular French side.

So yes you are definitely in the minority of people who are cheering for France to win. Everyone is free to do as they choose. But as a rugby fan and a neutral, it would be horrible for the game if France won as the style of rugby they played to get here and how poor they have been in the pool stages should have meant they failed to qualify for the KO round. Instead their philosophy of gagner salement has had more to do with other results and (Canada beating Tonga & Ireland beating Australia) and refereeing decisions than their ability to play decent, attacking rugby for 80 minutes.

Rugby World Cup proves a conundrum for French fans

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15382989

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Old 10-23-2011, 02:33 AM   #311
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Weepu is having real trouble kicking goals. He's 0-3 and wasn't close on 2 of them. Henry should change kickers.
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Old 10-23-2011, 02:34 AM   #312
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Another player down for France.

I'm still not sure why they put Parra back in the game after the first hit. His eyes were huge and it was pretty obvious he was not okay.
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Old 10-23-2011, 02:53 AM   #313
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Scrappy half. Nice to see France have come to play and not just defend. NZ have real kicking issues right now. They need to get that sorted out ASAP.
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Old 10-23-2011, 03:06 AM   #314
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Neither side can seem to kick tonight.

...and just as I say that New Zealand connects on one.
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Old 10-23-2011, 03:16 AM   #315
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...Call me crazy but that kick did NOT go through. I've had a few and it's late but I've replayed it about 5 times on the PVR and am convinced it misses just right.
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Old 10-23-2011, 03:36 AM   #316
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This game has been tremendous. What a classic struggle.
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Old 10-23-2011, 03:50 AM   #317
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Holy f*@k. What a finish. Never thought it would be down to a single point. My god was that tense.

Fair play to France for showing up today to play rugby. While they had no business even making the final, they can be more than proud of their performance. I was convinced that they were going to nick it with a late penalty. But alas, no.

What a nerve-wracking finish.

Oh and that kick was definitely good.
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Old 10-23-2011, 03:50 AM   #318
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Hard to call that one a France loss.

And if you are right Trojan, then France did win. That kick is what won the game.
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Old 10-23-2011, 04:05 AM   #319
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No question about the kick not being good. It was a great penalty strike.

Hats off to the French. They were magnificent today. Great in the scrum - Harinordiquay was a beast. What a fantastic player.

France can play wonderful rugby which captivates people. Too bad they were so poor prior to the final.

What a final.
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Old 10-23-2011, 10:13 AM   #320
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France played so well. The game actually changed when Trinh-Duc came in (even though he missed the long kick at the end) Weird why he was dropped from the starting lineup after a few group matches.

Also for as good as NZ are crushing people, they're always poor in big games. They totally ran out of ideas with 20 minutes to go and were just surviving.
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