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Old 05-16-2017, 12:32 PM   #3161
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Not sure how credible, but looks like messaging to create an easier exit to me:

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Sources say White House staff members are beginning to talk openly about their increasing concerns that Trump shows signs of early dementia.
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Trump sure is making America great again.
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Sources say White House staff members are beginning to talk openly about their increasing concerns that Trump shows signs of early dementia.
He's 70...I'm not sure that is considered early. Something like 10-15% of people over 70 have some dementia and/or Alzheimers I think. And stress can make a bad situation worse.

Trump is incompetent and perhaps senile. Pence I think is simply an evil person. I want a president Pence even less than i do President Trump. Well about as as much as I guess. Both will/are awful for the country.
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Headline on CNN's main page: "A White House under siege does damage control".

I've lost track of how many times we've seen that headline since he took office. That country is such a disaster right now. My guess is it'll take at least a decade to repair the damage and get them back to respectability on the world stage.
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Headline on CNN's main page: "A White House under siege does damage control".

I've lost track of how many times we've seen that headline since he took office. That country is such a disaster right now. My guess is it'll take at least a decade to repair the damage and get them back to respectability on the world stage.
Lots of the country is doing great. That White House is a disaster.
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He's 70...I'm not sure that is considered early. Something like 10-15% of people over 70 have some dementia and/or Alzheimers I think. And stress can make a bad situation worse.
Wording is awkward, but I think the comment might have been intended as 'early signs of dementia' or 'signs of early stages of dementia', rather than signs of early onset dementia.

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Wording is awkward, but I think the comment might have been intended as 'early signs of dementia' or 'signs of early stages of dementia', rather than signs of early onset dementia.
The nuance is lost on me...what is the importance of this difference?
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The nuance is lost on me...what is the importance of this difference?
Onset before age 65 is considered "early onset dementia". The president is 70, so he can't have that. Early onset dementia teens to have a more severe progression

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Sources say White House staff members are beginning to talk openly about their increasing concerns that Trump shows signs of early dementia.
Nah Trump is just a shill, he's no different from any other successful sales guy I ever had the misfortune to work with or do business with in Stereo sales or when I bought a car or a house, the guys that made 'the presidents club' or Luxman's salesman of the quarter or the like were all lying ######bags that boasted about ripping off their own family in order to make a sale.

At some point they'd get promoted to a management gig and fail utterly as it required more than just bull####, then they'd implode and move on.

There were a few exceptions but on the whole they were all none too bright sociopaths, that's all Trump is
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Nah Trump is just a shill, he's no different from any other successful sales guy I ever had the misfortune to work with or do business with in Stereo sales or when I bought a car or a house, the guys that made 'the presidents club' or Luxman's salesman of the quarter or the like were all lying ######bags that boasted about ripping off their own family in order to make a sale.

There were a few exceptions but on the whole they were all none too bright sociopaths, that's all Trump is
I don't but it either. All these symptoms were described by the guy who interviewed him 15 years ago and earlier. It's not dementia if he's been this way for decades
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Morning Joe group seems to think he is getting worst mentally
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Can he legally stay on as president if he has a diagnosed mental illness? Could he even stay on as president if he completely ignored the duties and went away for a couple of months?
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I don't but it either. All these symptoms were described by the guy who interviewed him 15 years ago and earlier. It's not dementia if he's been this way for decades
I'm on the fence about it; when compared to interviews from a decade ago, I definitely see a deterioration in speech patterns that are consistent with people in my own life who have dementia. All of this armchair analysis (including my own) is pretty superficial, but to diagnose it properly you need to look at not just at what the symptoms are but how they have deteriorated. He could have had a short attention span, violent temper, and bad memory a decade ago, but the question in whether those have grown worse.

That said, I certainly wouldn't rule out the possibility that it's not dementia but simply an inability to cope with a ridiculous amount of stress.
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I wonder if Trump was on a 3 month probationary employment period if he would have got hired on full time, or shown the door.
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Can he legally stay on as president if he has a diagnosed mental illness? Could he even stay on as president if he completely ignored the duties and went away for a couple of months?
There is a process for removing him (under the 25th amendment I believe) but it needs the Vice President and either a majority of the executive or of congress to initiate it, and then two-thirds vote of both houses. So it would still be a highly politicized process.
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He's getting more dangerous every day, I don't know how much longer they can wait. This latest controversy has put peoples lives, Americas relations with other countries and the whole intelligence community, at risk, from what I can understand. He seems oblivious to all of the damage he is doing.
They really should get rid of him sooner than later.
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One of the news shows was saying that the president is allowed to leak classified info to whoever he chooses because he has the authority to declassify anything. So if he is giving away US intelligence secrets to the Russians as president that is perfectly legal. It would be his campaign being funded by foreign interests that would get him into potential trouble.
I think the issue with him "giving away" secret intelligence provided by another isn't the legality, but how it undermines allies.

Intelligence has great value and if Israel wanted Russia to have it, they would have given it to Russia (and likely for something else in exchange).

There is also a good chance that if the intelligence was about Syria, that Israel and Russia might not be on the same page, therefore providing the info to Russia would undermine Israel. That would mean in the future, they may not want to provide anything to the U.S, which would likely put American lives at more risk in the ME.
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I certainly wouldn't rule out the possibility that it's not dementia but simply an inability to cope with a ridiculous amount of stress.
I'd say this is more likely the case. The guy was born into wealth and has never really had to experience what real work feels like until now. I think he honestly thought that being President was like being crowned King, and that he could just relax in Trump Tower while his subordinates ran around doing everything for him, similar to running his business empire.

Now that he's actually President, he's realizing how much work it actually is, and the stress is beyond anything he thought it would be. He just doesn't have the maturity, intelligence, experience, temperament, or attention span to do this job, and it's clearly driving him bonkers. He'll probably have a heart attack from the stress long before he ever gets impeached.
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I'd say this is more likely the case. The guy was born into wealth and has never really had to experience what real work feels like until now. I think he honestly thought that being President was like being crowned King, and that he could just relax in Trump Tower while his subordinates ran around doing everything for him, similar to running his business empire.

Now that he's actually President, he's realizing how much work it actually is, and the stress is beyond anything he thought it would be. He just doesn't have the maturity, intelligence, experience, temperament, or attention span to do this job, and it's clearly driving him bonkers. He'll probably have a heart attack from the stress long before he ever gets impeached.
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