2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Jiggy_12]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

If the Flames were to retain 50% on Kadri and he gets bought out, they are responsible for 50% of the buyout cost. Both actual cost and cap hit of the buyout.

And their retention slot is tied up for the whole duration of the buyout?

[Icon]

Originally Posted by Toonage

TSN discussing ping pong right now

Excuse me. Table tennis.

It's pretty riveting TV

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Yes, you retain until the contract is paid out. So if Kadri was bought out after next season the slot would be used for the 4 years after that

Seriously?

Do we know that?

If so you can't really trade a player with more than 1.25 years left on their contract with retention. Ever.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

But does it utilize a retention slot for this extended timeframe? That would be insanely prohibitive.

Of course it uses it. Who else is paying that buyout salary cost but the team who has contractually said they would (which is the team that has previously agreed through the retention to do it)

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Icon

It's pretty riveting TV

I’m captivated both by the table tennis game and O Dog’s outfit

[trackercowe]

Wow didn't realize how big Jeff O'Neill has gotten.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Seriously?

Do we know that?

If so you can't really trade a player with more than 1.25 years left on their contract with retention. Ever.

Yes we know that, it is in the CBA in black and white.

(Not you) but folks in general should probably use google before they go off about retention slots 😂

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

I really don't see the value for Kadri being better in the summer.

I think the likelihood is that the difference in value between trading Coleman now vs in the summer is closer than the value in trading Kadri now vs the summer.

Teams will be less wary of those 37 and 38 year old seasons now knowing they are going to get a chance to win a cup this year.

After July 1 I think teams will be even more hesitant to take on the back half of Kadri's contract knowing you have no idea if you get even 1 productive season out of him.

I'm not pretending to know what the value differential is.

But they only have one slot, and may have to use it on Coleman until they free up another.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

https://puckpedia.com/salary-cap/ans...20the%20buyout.

It is correct



So the Avs could have traded for Kadri, bought him out after next season and they would be on the hook for 4 seasons at 1.87 million and the Flames would have a retention slot being used for 4 seasons and it would cost the Flames 460,000 dollars.

Wow Gavey ... that changes everything.

No way I trade him retained.

If they do I'll be praying he has a solid season next year, and then again the year after.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I'm not pretending to know what the value differential is.

But they only have one slot, and may have to use it on Coleman until they free up another.

I'd hold onto Coleman before Kadri personally

3 vs 4 seasons isn't a big deal to me personally, you make it work and have a plan for 2 retention slots

[Icon]

Rumor is the Ducks are looking for another winger still.

Coleman for McQueen please.

[Jiggy_12]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Wow Gavey ... that changes everything.

No way I trade him retained.

If they do I'll be praying he has a solid season next year, and then again the year after.

Yup it really does change the entire landscape of a Kadri deal. I had no idea

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Of course it uses it. Who else is paying that buyout salary cost but the team who has contractually said they would (which is the team that has previously agreed through the retention to do it)

That's very prohibitive. Brings a whole other level of caution to retaining multiple years on Kadri then. A retention slot for ~ 5 years isn't worth it.

[Roko]

Originally Posted by Icon

Rumor is the Ducks are looking for another winger still.

Coleman for McQueen please.

I’d add at least one 2nd as well

[Roko]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Wow Gavey ... that changes everything.

No way I trade him retained.

If they do I'll be praying he has a solid season next year, and then again the year after.

This is why the flames want a solid piece back for the retention.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Wow didn't realize how big Jeff O'Neill has gotten.

He prefers to be called O-Dog

[Ashasx]

Will the Flames still be looking at trading away players and retaining in 4 years, or is that the time period for when the team might be looking to add?

[WickerChicken]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Wow didn't realize how big Jeff O'Neill has gotten.

looks like he is on the Keith Tkachuk diet

[Toonage]

Creepy AI bit on TSN. And a threat of more.

Insiders then and now. Hate this ####

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Wow Gavey ... that changes everything.

No way I trade him retained.

If they do I'll be praying he has a solid season next year, and then again the year after.

With how buyout friendly the Kadri contract is a team could treat Kadri like a rental. The Avs could have got him for the Roy price (late 1st and a 5th) used him for this year and then bought him out this summer. In that case he would cost them (assuming say the Flames retained 20% for that):

Avs - 2.57 next year and then 1.76 for the next 5 years

The Flames would use a retention spot for the next 6 years after this one.

That would be a pretty good way for a contender to deal with Kadri.