2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[CroCop]

The nixed deal for Kadri was probably the only shot to trade him before the deadline. I would be shocked if he moves today.

[Roko]

No need to panic yet. All the GMs are waiting for the Sportsnet show to go live

[keenan87]

If Nic Roy got a first..

Why not trade Morgan Frost for a similar package.. and keep Kadri for now

Especially if teams are looking for centers

[MikePatton]

Originally Posted by Roko

No need to panic yet. All the GMs are waiting for the Sportsnet show to go live

If youre not synchronized to Sportsnet are you really even a GM?

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

If teams are not paying up a 1st or a top prospect in a deal for either one of Kadri or Coleman, then why are we even shipping them off in the first place? Moving Weegar has already shown how bad we are defensively, I don’t think we need to worry about winning games and ruining a chance at a top pick.

I still welcome either playing being moved, but at the same time if the value is not there it’s not there. We might have a better chance of getting a better trade occurring when everyone in the standings start at square one.

The hardest part of being a fan of a team is recognizing when you have a diminishing asset that needs to be moved. Both Coleman and Kadri (especially Kadri) are diminishing assets and need to be moved ASAP. Unless you want to ride them to end of their contracts and accept you get nothing for them, they are not going to be worth more than they are right now. Take what you can get and be happy with it. The team is going nowhere with them, so get the best future assets you can and have more chances of fortifying the team long term.

On retention and Murray Edwards, Edwards needs to piss off and not worry about what is retained. This guy's companies blow more money in a year on dry holes than all the money the Flames will retain in moved salaries. Just get the deals done and quit ####ing around.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

^ We all agree that retention might be the cost of doing business. So is the return that Conroy expects. Retention is too high a price if the offer is crappy.

Of course.

My opinion is if the Flames are getting a 1st plus for Kadri, that’s enough for Kadri with retention, given Kadri’s age, contract, etc. I think it’s logical to assume that was the offer from Colorado, given what Colorado gave to Toronto.

Edit: And I understand it’s not my money, and the owners have the right to say there will be no retention unless we get a good return for Kadri + a fair return for retention. I just don’t think the Flames are gonna get that. And I think that’s going to hinder the Flames from moving the rebuild forward. When I say retention is the cost of doing business, I mean I hope the Flames will do Kadri (retained) for a good return for Kadri alone.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Flames are willing to eat money. That’s never been a question.

Flames have a price w/ ret and if it’s not met. Kadri isn’t getting moved.

Kadri isnt going to keep this team from “bottoming out”. Flames are in ####ing 31st.

If Kadri REALLY wants to move he needs to expand his list, end of story.

Otherwise show up to work, be a professional and we’ll continue work to find a solution.

As much as the Flames signed the contract so did he.

Okay. But it does add a question if flames value retention more than the market allows . Everybody and their dog know that retention value is nowhere near what it once was.

[FlamesAreOne]

I hate our Owner(s).

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Okay. But it does add a question if flames value retention more than the market allows . Everybody and their dog know that retention value is nowhere near what it once was.

The idea that a 3.5 million dollar Kadri should get the same package as a 3 million dollar Roy is insane. Conroy was 100% correct to reject that if that is what Colorado wanted. Good luck to them with Roy in that case.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Kadri will be worth less the more he ages. I heard the same arguments last year when I wanted him traded last deadline. Now he is worth less and he will be worth less next year.

At the same time, keeping both hurts the tank. They definitely need to trade at minimum Kadri, but hopefully both today.

If not, people can have their own opinions but I would consider it a failure for sure.

Especially if he decided it’s not worth trying any more like he is mostly doing now

I maintained you get what you can with Kadri, his value is not going to get better

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by FlamesAreOne

I hate our Owner(s)Murray Edwards.

Fixed your post for you.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Its fascinating that so many people think Zellers is still Avs property. It comes up a lot.

The Avs traded Zellers to the Bruins in the Charlie Coyle trade at last year's deadline.

It's because when you google the Avs top prospects, generally the top (and best) article is the one from the Athletic, when he was still part of their org. That's how I made the error.

[Salt Water Cowboy #10]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

The hardest part of being a fan of a team is recognizing when you have a diminishing asset that needs to be moved. Both Coleman and Kadri (especially Kadri) are diminishing assets and need to be moved ASAP. Unless you want to ride them to end of their contracts and accept you get nothing for them, they are not going to be worth more than they are right now. Take what you can get and be happy with it. The team is going nowhere with them, so get the best future assets you can and have more chances of fortifying the team long term.

On retention and Murray Edwards, Edwards needs to piss off and not worry about what is retained. This guy's companies blow more money in a year on dry holes than all the money the Flames will retain in moved salaries. Just get the deals done and quit ####ing around.

I feel the same way here. These are both guys that were picked up from free agency. Zero cost to acquire. Any return is a win. Especially with Kadri. He’s worth his salary for this year and maybe next. Get him outa here asap. Like the player but there is no point to having him on the team other than for leadership purposes. And he is a good leader most of the time, but he’s also a puck hog and a bit of a drama queen lol

[Rejean31]

Idiot Oiler fans latest proposal is that they would do a Nurse for Sergei Bobrovsky and AJ Greer trade. Too bad for them that Florida would laugh in their faces.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Boiling this down to "retention is a cost of doing business" once again ignores the value of the retention slots themselves. To which people respond "bah, the Flames aren't going to need to use that slot", which completely ignores that literally right now they don't have enough. Since they don't have enough now, how can we confidently believe they won't need that slot sometime 3 years down the road. That's a long time.

The slot has value.

As for Edwards involvement it could be something like "You can do it Craig, but make sure you get value". Which is literally the conversation my boss had with me this week regarding a negotiation where the other side wants us to give on something we typically don't. He gave me the authorization to do it, but said "it's valuable to us, so it has to be valuable to them".

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Royle9

1.5 trades realistically left imo.
No updates since last night, I think it’s all going to come down to retention and the willingness of Mr.Edwards and management.

I think they can only make one deal because of the retention slots left, and they are keeping this rolling hoping someone steps up and takes one of them without retention allowing them to move both.

Recent retention history suggests it's not a Flames reluctance to use a slot.

It's number of slots left.

(Kadri for 3 years is a different animal though both in total dollars and the uncertainty you build by having a slot tied up that long)

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Rejean31

Idiot Oiler fans latest proposal is that they would do a Nurse for Sergei Bobrovsky and AJ Greer trade. Too bad for them that Florida would laugh in their faces.

Oilers fans have the least hockey knowledge of any fan base in the NHL. That’s why HFOil is such a comedy. Would you expect anything else from the Sweatpant Dress Shoe Nation.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

The idea that a 3.5 million dollar Kadri should get the same package as a 3 million dollar Roy is insane. Conroy was 100% correct to reject that if that is what Colorado wanted. Good luck to them with Roy in that case.

I’m sorry but I might have missed the rumour that Avs wanted 50% retention on Kadri. So yes I wouldn’t say they would be worth the same if that’s the case. I would say they are worth the same if it was 20% retention. I have a hard time believing any team would be expecting 50 % retention for Kadri. The other teams have owners and manage cap as well . Thats a hard pill to swallow for any team that has a player with 3 years left on contract

[Ashasx]

Seravalli was on 960 and said that he thinks there will be a big push (seemingly to imply from both the Flames and other teams) to get Kadri done today.

[iloveicedhockey]

I appreciate that teams may need retention but they also appear to think that they're doing us a huge favour by taking Kadri off our hands. It sounds like the retention ask alone should be worth a first, at least, so are you giving up Kadri for whatever the plus is (a second or B prospect). He likely gives the Flames way more value if they keep him, on and off the ice.