03-06-2026, 08:24 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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03-06-2026, 08:25 AM
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#31382
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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^ We all agree that retention might be the cost of doing business. So is the return that Conroy expects. Retention is too high a price if the offer is crappy.
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03-06-2026, 08:25 AM
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#31383
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Franchise Player
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Well that's a way to over analyze it.
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03-06-2026, 08:26 AM
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#31384
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Franchise Player
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Happy Trade Deadline day!
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03-06-2026, 08:28 AM
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#31385
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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Originally Posted by CFO
If a trade happens with Avs - I wonder if Flames target a guy like Zellers.
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Its fascinating that so many people think Zellers is still Avs property. It comes up a lot.
The Avs traded Zellers to the Bruins in the Charlie Coyle trade at last year's deadline.
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03-06-2026, 08:29 AM
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#31386
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Calgary
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There is also the option of taking a bad contract back as part of the return instead of retention - similar to taking Olli Maatta back in the Weegar deal. Hopefully something gets done - but with Weegar gone I'm not as concerned if a trade doesn't happen... however this year may be our only opportunity to get rid of Kadri as his value will continue to drop as he ages.
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03-06-2026, 08:29 AM
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#31387
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The only trade the Flames have made close to the deadline none of the insiders saw coming or ever breathed a word of. I think that means Kadri and Coleman stay put and nothing of consequence happens. Could be a disappointing day considering all the hype built up over the plethora of players the Flames had available and how they owned the market.
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03-06-2026, 08:29 AM
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#31388
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
^ We all agree that retention might be the cost of doing business. So is the return that Conroy expects. Retention is too high a price if the offer is crappy.
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That's the kicker I guess, what is the ask?
If it's a 1st and a top prospect then that's fair.
If it's just a 1st round pick only then I get why you're not moving him.
But I would not expect the market to get any better in the summer on Kadri. I think looking at that contract at the draft and staring down $7M for his 36, 37, and 38 year old seasons is going to scare off a lot of GMs.
Contending GMs ignore that right now because you're trying to win a cup. They won't ignore it as much at the draft.
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03-06-2026, 08:31 AM
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Well, if Kadri is going to be very disappointed to still be in CGY after today, he can help himself alleviate the disappointment and waive his NTC.
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He has a 13 team NTC so Calgary is free to move him anywhere else without permission. That doesn’t mean those other teams want him at full freight and will return good assets
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03-06-2026, 08:32 AM
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#31390
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
The only trade the Flames have made close to the deadline none of the insiders saw coming or ever breathed a word of. I think that means Kadri and Coleman stay put and nothing of consequence happens. Could be a disappointing day considering all the hype built up over the plethora of players the Flames had available and how they owned the market.
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If teams are not paying up a 1st or a top prospect in a deal for either one of Kadri or Coleman, then why are we even shipping them off in the first place? Moving Weegar has already shown how bad we are defensively, I don’t think we need to worry about winning games and ruining a chance at a top pick.
I still welcome either playing being moved, but at the same time if the value is not there it’s not there. We might have a better chance of getting a better trade occurring when everyone in the standings start at square one.
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03-06-2026, 08:33 AM
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First Line Centre
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I am still optimistic for some trades.
It would be a huge blunder to keep both Kadri and Coleman, I just don't see it happening. I think both are gone.
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03-06-2026, 08:34 AM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
I'm not saying its pressure.
I'm saying that the only way teams are making offers right now for Kadri are structured on flames retaining salary.
If the offers are not worth retaining on, then it would be foolish to make the trade just to make the trade and pay a bunch of money (7M+) just to say you made a trade.
The reality is that every offer on Kadri thus far has come with a retention requirement, that's just the fact of the matter.
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Flames are willing to eat money. That’s never been a question.
Flames have a price w/ ret and if it’s not met. Kadri isn’t getting moved.
Kadri isnt going to keep this team from “bottoming out”. Flames are in ####ing 31st.
If Kadri REALLY wants to move he needs to expand his list, end of story.
Otherwise show up to work, be a professional and we’ll continue work to find a solution.
As much as the Flames signed the contract so did he.
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03-06-2026, 08:34 AM
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#31393
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhett44
I am still optimistic for some trades.
It would be a huge blunder to keep both Kadri and Coleman, I just don't see it happening. I think both are gone.
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Both can be moved next year or in the summer.
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03-06-2026, 08:34 AM
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#31394
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Its fascinating that so many people think Zellers is still Avs property. It comes up a lot.
The Avs traded Zellers to the Bruins in the Charlie Coyle trade at last year's deadline.
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I think a lot of people don't remember the minutiae of every trade if it doesn't involve their team, Zellers isn't a prospect getting a lot of coverage, and a lot of people probably just look at a teams' draft history and say "oh that guy was good, right?"
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03-06-2026, 08:35 AM
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#31395
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
That's the kicker I guess, what is the ask?
If it's a 1st and a top prospect then that's fair.
If it's just a 1st round pick only then I get why you're not moving him.
But I would not expect the market to get any better in the summer on Kadri. I think looking at that contract at the draft and staring down $7M for his 36, 37, and 38 year old seasons is going to scare off a lot of GMs.
Contending GMs ignore that right now because you're trying to win a cup. They won't ignore it as much at the draft.
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This is why I think they should move Kadri with retention now. No matter what if they want to trade Kadri it’s always going to be with retention . In off season I don’t think offers will be any better and teams will still want retention. IMO Kadri will not be happy suiting up as a flame next year.
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03-06-2026, 08:35 AM
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#31396
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If Trochek is not garnering offers worth trading him, I'd argue that CGY is receiving the same low ball offers but with retention.
I know that when MTL was initially kicking tires and talking a concrete deal it was a Prospect + pick but I don't know if that's changed now. They don't want to take away from their roster if they can help it but they still want to add.
I'm optimistic something still gets done on their end, I hope we have what they want.
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03-06-2026, 08:38 AM
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#31397
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sec214
Both can be moved next year or in the summer.
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Kadri will be worth less the more he ages. I heard the same arguments last year when I wanted him traded last deadline. Now he is worth less and he will be worth less next year.
At the same time, keeping both hurts the tank. They definitely need to trade at minimum Kadri, but hopefully both today.
If not, people can have their own opinions but I would consider it a failure for sure.
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03-06-2026, 08:38 AM
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#31398
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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I think if the flames hold firm they will get their price. Not a ton of options for buyers out there and since they are not rentals Conroy can call the bluff and make teams make him move the players.
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03-06-2026, 08:40 AM
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#31399
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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I don't know, seeing the pricing teams have been willing to pay for pieces like Roy and other centers makes me think it might be Calgary and New York expecting to get too much than it is that the market isn't willing to pay.
Really I guess the ask is probably around what Nelson returned last year - 1st + Top Prospect + 3rd
And reading between the lines on Secs post it sounds like teams have met the price but they are on Kadri's NTC
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03-06-2026, 08:41 AM
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#31400
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sec214
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Otherwise show up to work, be a professional and we’ll continue work to find a solution.
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The thing I haven't understood in those posts decrying a possibility that Kadri is not moved and thus disappointed is why we should care if he's disappointed? Surely we expect him to maintain professionalism. He understands how the business works.
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