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Old 03-05-2026, 11:28 PM   #31321
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I don't dislike Whitecloud but if you are being offered anything like a 2nd round pick you take that and run, he's not that good.
I would actually argue Whitecloud is our best dman by a significant margin now.

But obviously for the right offer, any of the older players are available.
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Old 03-05-2026, 11:29 PM   #31322
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I don't dislike Whitecloud but if you are being offered anything like a 2nd round pick you take that and run, he's not that good.
Don't know what you're watching - Whitecloud is fantastic

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Old 03-05-2026, 11:30 PM   #31323
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I would actually argue Whitecloud is our best dman by a significant margin now.

But obviously for the right offer, any of the older players are available.
Except he really isn't really that good. He just looks alright in comparison with the dogs breakfast on the ice with him.
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Old 03-05-2026, 11:31 PM   #31324
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I don't dislike Whitecloud but if you are being offered anything like a 2nd round pick you take that and run, he's not that good.
A 2nd?

Man some of y'all are cheap dates.
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Old 03-05-2026, 11:32 PM   #31325
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Agreed. A 2nd doesn’t even make me consider it
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Old 03-05-2026, 11:36 PM   #31326
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Except he really isn't really that good. He just looks alright in comparison with the dogs breakfast on the ice with him.
I’d be shocked if Whitecloud is moved.

Flames have 3 NHL caliber defensemen right now (4 if you count Kuznetsov, he’s been good but unproven). And one hasn’t even played a game for us yet.

You can’t ice Pachal and Hanley 20+ minutes a night.
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Old 03-05-2026, 11:41 PM   #31327
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I’d be shocked if Whitecloud is moved.

Flames have 3 NHL caliber defensemen right now (4 if you count Kuznetsov, he’s been good but unproven). And one hasn’t even played a game for us yet.

You can’t ice Pachal and Hanley 20+ minutes a night.
In the position they are in thats exactly what they can do. If there is a decent offer for Whitecloud you take it
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Old 03-05-2026, 11:43 PM   #31328
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In the position they are in thats exactly what they can do. If there is a decent offer for Whitecloud you take it
Never go full oilers.

I don’t see it happening.
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Old 03-05-2026, 11:49 PM   #31329
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Whitecloud would need at least a first
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Old 03-05-2026, 11:54 PM   #31330
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A 2nd would not be good enough or the deal would be done already.
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Old 03-05-2026, 11:56 PM   #31331
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if, as some insiders are saying, a dozen teams or so are asking about Whitecloud, it would be foolish to take a 2nd just for the sake of getting it over with.

If I'm Conroy, I'm telling one of the 153 assistant GMs in the organization to pull an all-nighter just taking all the calls about Whitecloud, and get back to me with the best two offers of the bunch so I can take my pick and close the deal.
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Old 03-05-2026, 11:59 PM   #31332
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Flames realistically can't drop further than where they have. VAN is too far behind.

Kadri and Coleman are aging out, so trading them makes sense.

I don't think you trade Whitecloud just to empty the coffers. He has value to the Flames' future. So any package would have to offer them more than what Whitecloud does for the Flames moving forward.
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Flames realistically can't drop further than where they have. VAN is too far behind.

Kadri and Coleman are aging out, so trading them makes sense.

I don't think you trade Whitecloud just to empty the coffers. He has value to the Flames' future. So any package would have to offer them more than what Whitecloud does for the Flames moving forward.
Trade him and sign him in free agency.

Trade everything that isn’t bolted down.
Except Lomberg, leave him here for the kids.
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Old 03-06-2026, 12:30 AM   #31334
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Trade him and sign him in free agency.

Trade everything that isn’t bolted down.
Except Lomberg, leave him here for the kids.
Whitecloud? He has 2 more years at $2.75M.
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Trade him and sign him in free agency.
Whitecloud? He isn't a free agent till 2028. Trade him after playing 13 games here, and he might not remember he ever was with the Flames by then.

Certainly not fondly: ‘Oh, yeah, those were the jerks who made a big deal about welcoming me to town and then kicked me out the back door before I even got unpacked.’
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Except he really isn't really that good. He just looks alright in comparison with the dogs breakfast on the ice with him.
Are you really sure?
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Old 03-06-2026, 12:33 AM   #31337
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Whitecloud probably retains his value too, and you could get around just a good of a return next year or the year after as a rental.

I would not trade him unless it's for a 1st plus something else, like a decent prospect. Like if SJ offers a 1st and McKinney? Sure
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You have to keep some vets around to bring up the kids, otherwise we'll be like the Oilers before they got McDavid and Draisaitl- rebuilding for 10+ years.
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Whitecloud probably retains his value too, and you could get around just a good of a return next year or the year after as a rental.

I would not trade him unless it's for a 1st plus something else, like a decent prospect. Like if SJ offers a 1st and McKinney? Sure
McKinney AND a first? I would openly cry tears of joy.
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Whitecloud? He has 2 more years at $2.75M.
Oh, well then, yeah I’d keep him. Maybe I should look these things up first!
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