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Old 03-05-2026, 07:21 PM   #31201
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Well at least now some of us have something to complain about. Selling Weegar took the wind out of the sails a bit there.
I think the only problem with the Weegar deal was that it came upon us all of a sudden, and our expectations were sky high.

Some thought that it might be Iggy coming back, and while it seemed unlikely, it wasn't out of the realm of possibility at that time. It seemed like some team had made Conroy an offer he simply could not refuse.

At the vert least, most thought it would be a first round pick and a very good prospect.

So, when the actual deal was tabled, without one elite piece, it was a complete letdown.

I think it would have been received differently if we all knew that Weegar was being shopped.
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Old 03-05-2026, 07:23 PM   #31202
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I think the only problem with the Weegar deal was that it came upon us all of a sudden, and our expectations were sky high.

Some thought that it might be Iggy coming back, and while it seemed unlikely, it wasn't out of the realm of possibility at that time. It seemed like some team had made Conroy an offer he simply could not refuse.

At the vert least, most thought it would be a first round pick and a very good prospect.

So, when the actual deal was tabled, without one elite piece, it was a complete letdown.

I think it would have been received differently if we all knew that Weegar was being shopped.
It seems most are moderately to very happy with the deal and not suffering from the let down you describe

Generally the trade has been received well
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Old 03-05-2026, 07:23 PM   #31203
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If ownership won't retain on Kadri, he's likely playing out his contract in a Flames jersey.
Problem is he is not performing and only getting worse
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Old 03-05-2026, 07:24 PM   #31204
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Whatever, if trades are on the table retention or not, and Kadri/Coleman don't want to waive, (assumption), than that's on them.

Both are pros and I would think they understand that.

Still think it's in the organization best interest to move on, but, whatever, the organization is still moving in the right direction.

I can't believe though that retention is really required on Coleman, that term and amount of money on the contract is good value, they should be able to easily trade that asset
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Old 03-05-2026, 07:26 PM   #31205
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It seems most are moderately to very happy with the deal and not suffering from the let down you describe

Generally the trade has been received well
Poll added! Let's find out!
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Old 03-05-2026, 07:27 PM   #31206
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The Canadiens have so many assets. Get off your wallet. We gave you a free first let’s go
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Old 03-05-2026, 07:27 PM   #31207
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The Canadiens have so many assets. Get off your wallet. We gave you a free first let’s go
Man I would looooooooooooooooooooooooooooove Zharovsky
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Im as guilty as anybody but if this trade season has taught me anything is that our collective perception of players values is wildly out of wack. I think that fuels the disappointment in trades when they happen.
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Starting to think Detroit is the spot for Kadri. They have the cap space, good assets, closer to home, position of need, going for the playoffs.
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Old 03-05-2026, 07:30 PM   #31210
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Im as guilty as anybody but if this trade season has taught me anything is that our collective perception of players values is wildly out of wack. I think that fuels the disappointment in trades when they happen.
Getting carried away on possible returns is part of the fun!
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Old 03-05-2026, 07:31 PM   #31211
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Getting carried away on possible returns is part of the fun!
Exactly. What if!! It’s always less but we can hope
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Old 03-05-2026, 07:31 PM   #31212
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The Canadiens have so many assets. Get off your wallet. We gave you a free first let’s go
Really hard to make the money work though. Every cap dump player they have they could send back has some form of a trade clause. If you are a vet why are you waiving that to leave a playoff team for the Flames?
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Old 03-05-2026, 07:32 PM   #31213
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I’m waiting for Owen beck, 1st and Laine. Or like 3 more defencemen
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Old 03-05-2026, 07:33 PM   #31214
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I think the only problem with the Weegar deal was that it came upon us all of a sudden, and our expectations were sky high.

Some thought that it might be Iggy coming back, and while it seemed unlikely, it wasn't out of the realm of possibility at that time. It seemed like some team had made Conroy an offer he simply could not refuse.

At the vert least, most thought it would be a first round pick and a very good prospect.

So, when the actual deal was tabled, without one elite piece, it was a complete letdown.

I think it would have been received differently if we all knew that Weegar was being shopped.
I think the problem is 2 things.

1 - every year there seems to be a handful of posters that think teams will just trade elite prospects for good players. It seems like some think we will get returns that instantly put this rebuild at the top of the league.

2 - the true value of draft picks. People continue to get disappointed in adding 2nds instead of late 1sts. Utah's 1st is in the range that could be very valuable, but this is probably why it wasn't in the deal. The value of 3 2nds is more than a 1st in the 15-22 range if you actually track the results. Considering that 1 of the 2nds is the NYR's, a pick likey before 35 with 2 other 2nds vs a pick that could be around 18-19 OV is a win IMO.

I would have taken their 1st with the hopes it slips to the 12-16 range but I'm sure there would be protection and from their spot similar to the Rangers last year it could have been top 12 protected. Teams seems to be adding 2nd conditions lately of what happens if the pick moves to 27 as well. 3 2nds for me is a win vs getting 1 picks around 18-20

I also think the 2nds could be used with Vegas 1st to move up so having 4 in total could allow Conroy to work his way up the draft.
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Old 03-05-2026, 07:34 PM   #31215
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Take back Laine and they gain an extra million in cap. And Laine is a pure cap dump unlike Nichushkin.

For that, give us the premium prospect. I don't care about pucks anymore. Flames are gonna have a glut over the next 3 drafts.
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Old 03-05-2026, 07:36 PM   #31216
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I'm also of the belief the Flames are going to add some salary tommorow. They're uncomfortably close to the cap floor and the UFA group is very weak.
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Old 03-05-2026, 07:40 PM   #31217
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“Awkward” isn’t even the right word for the situation if Kadri and Coleman aren’t traded at this point. I understand how negotiations work, but they have obviously had conversations with Management about being moved.
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Old 03-05-2026, 07:41 PM   #31218
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It seems most are moderately to very happy with the deal and not suffering from the let down you describe

Generally the trade has been received well
I am really thinking about everyone's initial reaction once we saw no first round picks were involved, nor any very good prospects. If you read the initial reactions, there was a let down, which has since dissipated for many.

I was in shock initially when I saw the return, as I was in shock when I first heard of the potential trade.

To me, the best part of the trade now is that it does signal a tear down of the Flames, which is much overdue.
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Old 03-05-2026, 07:42 PM   #31219
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Im as guilty as anybody but if this trade season has taught me anything is that our collective perception of players values is wildly out of wack. I think that fuels the disappointment in trades when they happen.
I think we'll be a bit disappointed in the return for Kadri if there ends up being no retention in place.
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Old 03-05-2026, 07:42 PM   #31220
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Avs offer obviously wasn't good enough, otherwise salary retention would be a non issue.
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