Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Torture

^^
Vote in a UCP leadership race too

Can 16 year olds vote in the NDP conventions/leadership campaigns?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Yoho

UCP Unified.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1584530441939300354

But there’s still an awareness that there are a number of factions within the big conservative tent, even if they weren’t obviously on display over the weekend.

It may not be a wildly ringing endorsement of the party’s direction — as many in the party acknowledged over the weekend — but many expressed that they “have no choice” but to unite behind Smith.

“The party is still suffering from some polarization,” said Malkin.

This has been a struggle since the party’s inception, when Kenney, then the Progressive Conservative leader and Brian Jean, then the Wildrose party leader, brought the two parties together to form the United Conservatives in July 2017. The two have been, at times, uneasy bedfellows, with some members of the government caucus and members of the party’s grassroots openly feuding with the government over pandemic-era measures.

There’s the genuine fear, too, that Smith will crash and burn.

Some of this is normal, pre-election jitters. But Smith has a losing legacy, and she self-immolated in 2012 after standing by a Wildrose candidate who said gays and lesbians would burn in a “lake of fire.”

Mmmm unity. Enjoy the moment, Yoho, this is going to explode in the party's face.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Parents are way more influential on kids than teachers when it comes to political leanings.

Ironically it was our son who influenced us to vote for Nenshi the first time based on the thorough platform analysis they did in school. I didn't see any evidence that what they did at school was biased, but I guess he liked the candidate that best matched the values we taught him, or something like that.

On the other hand our daughter convinced us to vote one of her teachers in as a councillor but he has turned out to be pretty much a developer shill.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Mmmm unity. Enjoy the moment, Yoho, this is going to explode in the party's face.

Tell me that Yoho doesn’t understand the role of a party whip without actually telling me…

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Macman

It’s still a good job/career which I don’t think would be hard to retrain people and fill these positions if needed.

You're right, doctors are easy to just train and replace. They can just quickly finish their ten years of med school studies and practicums and be on their way. As easy as hiring burger flippers at McDonald's!

[Macman]

Or we can recruit from elsewhere as well, right? Can we not also make it easier for foreign Doctors to come and practice here if that was necessary?

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Muta

You're right, doctors are easy to just train and replace. They can just quickly finish their ten years of med school studies and practicums and be on their way. As easy as hiring burger flippers at McDonald's!

Macman does not understand the nuance in healthcare recruiting.

I mean, in nursing alone there are three general types of nurses:

- Registered Practical Nurses (RPNs) or Licensed Practical Nurse (LPNs)
- Registered Nurses (RNs)
- Nurse Practitioners (NPs)

And below that, dozens of specializations.

Then you have to figure out which nurses are needed where, including based on hospital/clinic/facility demands and requirements. Then you need to ensure they have a level of support, stability, and growth opportunities in a province that makes it difficult to practice at times given extraneous expectations (hey! You're a nurse, get in that ICU!)

Don't even get me started on physician placement. Alberta can't even fill its residency positions under a UCP regime, and thats a HUGE red flag.

Macman - and others like him - need to speak with the CPSA, AMA, CNA, and other organizations before jumping to conclusions of "just add more".

[you&me]

Originally Posted by Macman

Or we can recruit from elsewhere as well, right? Can we not also make it easier for foreign Doctors to come and practice here if that was necessary?

Orrrr - and hear me out - we could just keep the ones we already have by not constantly ####ting on them.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Macman

Or we can recruit from elsewhere as well, right? Can we not also make it easier for foreign Doctors to come and practice here if that was necessary?

Why would they choose Alberta over another place? Would you take a job where your boss was hostile to you, vowed to make your work harder by downplaying the roll of vaccines in a safe society and promoting woowoo medicine over science based health(which goes against everything you learned), and blaming you for all the ills caused by those in charge? Or would you pick another province?

[Macman]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Macman does not understand the nuance in healthcare recruiting.

I mean, in nursing alone there are three general types of nurses:

- Registered Practical Nurses (RPNs) or Licensed Practical Nurse (LPNs)
- Registered Nurses (RNs)
- Nurse Practitioners (NPs)

And below that, dozens of specializations.

Then you have to figure out which nurses are needed where, including based on hospital/clinic/facility demands and requirements. Then you need to ensure they have a level of support, stability, and growth opportunities in a province that makes it difficult to practice at times given extraneous expectations (hey! You're a nurse, get in that ICU!)

Don't even get me started on physician placement. Alberta can't even fill its residency positions under a UCP regime, and thats a HUGE red flag.

Macman - and others like him - need to speak with the CPSA, AMA, CNA, and other organizations before jumping to conclusions of "just add more".

Thanks for posting this and it sounds like it’s been an issue for a while, maybe Smith will finally fix and make things right again.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Macman

Or we can recruit from elsewhere as well, right? Can we not also make it easier for foreign Doctors to come and practice here if that was necessary?

Okay, but you said retrain, so retrain who exactly? And why would they stay here in this adversarial environment? Do you think it’s that easy? Or that foreign doctors are going to just become fluent in English in a couple of weeks or something?

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Don't even get me started on physician placement. Alberta can't even fill its residency positions under a UCP regime, and thats a HUGE red flag.

Always has been the challenge. Every province is competing for doctors, and every province struggles particularly to fill rural postings. Alberta traditionally has remained competitive by paying more than everybody else. But tearing up contracts and having a 'war on doctors' has made people skeptical, which just drives the price up even more.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Okay, but you said retrain, so retrain who exactly? And why would they stay here in this adversarial environment? Do you think it’s that easy? Or that foreign doctors are going to just become fluent in English in a couple of weeks or something?

Alberta's last big foreign doctor push was recruiting South African doctors who were motivated to leave. It was so successful South Africa pressured Canada into trying to put a stop to it through trade deals. Alberta had money, South Africa had Royal College certified, English(ish) speaking doctors looking for a way out so the process was about as streamlined as one could hope for.



Maybe it's worth making a push at the UK. 'Come here and we will convert your savings as if the pound was at it's level from three months ago!'

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Muta

You're right, doctors are easy to just train and replace. They can just quickly finish their ten years of med school studies and practicums and be on their way. As easy as hiring burger flippers at McDonald's!

Just cut the “red tape” and give them a doctorate in 6 months. Easy fix.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by Muta

You're right, doctors are easy to just train and replace. They can just quickly finish their ten years of med school studies and practicums and be on their way. As easy as hiring burger flippers at McDonald's!

Plus, even if you could replace them easily, if you keep ####ting on healthcare eventually your replacements are going to decide to move elsewhere too.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Okay, but you said retrain, so retrain who exactly? And why would they stay here in this adversarial environment? Do you think it’s that easy? Or that foreign doctors are going to just become fluent in English in a couple of weeks or something?

Retrain the unemployed oil and gas workers, obviously. How hard can being a doctor or nurse be?

[#-3]

Originally Posted by RedHot25

https://twitter.com/user/status/1584277674503344128

I'm very confused.

Late October is early?

Is that fact that we just had a 6 week long unseasonably warm autumn then a weekend of cold weather evidence we don't need to address climate change?

What is the implication?

[Fuzz]

Would you want to be a doctor in rural Alberta where you have to spend 20 minutes with every other parent convincing them that yes, childhood vaccines are safe and effective at preventing your kids from dying, and no, witch hazel won't have the same effect. I'd think that would get exhausting.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by #-3

I'm very confused.

Late October is early?

Is that fact that we just had a 6 week long unseasonably warm autumn then a weekend of cold weather evidence we don't need to address climate change?

What is the implication?

It's just satire. I'm getting a little tired of all the "great" satire out there as well. When it's too close to our reality it's just confusing rather than funny.

[Macman]

Originally Posted by #-3

I'm very confused.

Late October is early?

Is that fact that we just had a 6 week long unseasonably warm autumn then a weekend of cold weather evidence we don't need to address climate change?

What is the implication?

I don’t get it either, is there a story I missed clicking on or is it the snow, white, racism something something.. Both Calgary and Edmonton have good mayors.

I think some people need to get up to speed on what Alberta actually is, must be confusing for posters on here that don’t actually live here. We’re a very modern, progressive and diverse place, come visit sometime.