2nd Project Veritas video is now up. They discuss large scale voter fraud and how they can make it happen. After the first video went live, Foval was fired immediately.
That is terrible, if this video is representative he would release the whole uncut video instead of this garbage. He appears to be an hypothetical conversation about how you could rig an election as opposed to how he rigged an election.
Also this conspiracy would require 10,000+ people to make a difference even in a close state so if this actually occurred a whistle blower would report it.
Do you really believe that bussing across state lines on a mass scale actually has occurred. You also owe me 15 minutes of my life back.
I wonder if this will calm down the Scalia was murdered crowd.
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On Monday, during a Q&A session at the University of Minnesota, Sotomayor confirmed that Scalia’s outré quips sometimes infuriated her. “There are things he’s said on the bench,” the baseball fan told the audience, “where if I had a baseball bat, I might have used it.”
"We want something heroic. We want something that is not defined by liberalism, or individual rights, or bourgeois norms. We want something that is truly European and truly heroic," Spencer says at the podium. "That is fundamentally what the Alt-Right is about." Race, he says, "is real. Race matters, and race is the foundation of identity."
The Alt-Right prides itself on its leaderless ethos, using social media to spread its ideology through viral memes and anonymous attacks on its enemies, real and imagined. But Spencer coined the term Alt-Right, back in 2010, and has since positioned himself as the movement's leading intellectual and most visible spokesman.
Post-conference, Spencer invites a cluster of journalists and Alt-Right fans for drinks at the staid hotel, where he relishes being the center of attention.
Spencer says he guesses women comprise only about a fifth of the Alt-Right – an imbalance that's obvious at the gathering, where there appears to be only one female follower amid the dozen or so men who cycle in and out.
No matter. Spencer tends to see women as manipulative figures who are best when submitting to Alt-Right virility. Women, he tweeted during the first debate between Hillary Clinton and Trump, "should never be allowed to make foreign policy. It's not that they're 'weak.' To the contrary, their vindictiveness knows no bounds." Over drinks, he suggests that most women secretly crave Alt-Right boyfriends because they want "alpha genes" and "alpha sperm." When a man by the bar suggests someone should write a novel about "a liberal feminist studies major falling in love with a Richard Spencer type," Spencer suggests I write it.
More recently, in a podcast recorded after the exposure of the so-called Trump tape, Spencer scoffed at the "puritanical" criticism of Trump, saying it's "ridiculous" to call what Trump was talking about sexual assault. "At some part of every woman's soul," he said, "they want to be taken by a strong man." Pointing to how Trump said he had taken Nancy O'Dell furniture shopping, Spencer added, "Is this really the worst thing you've ever heard? In a way, he's like the most gentlemanly, kindly philanderer of all time."
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At the Willard in September, over a Mint Julep followed by Manhattans, Spencer, whose free-wheeling style with journalists has made him the Alt-Right's "it boy," gabs about white nationalism and his disdain for electoral democracy. He also discusses why he supports Trump, and their shared respect for Vladimir Putin. "I admire Putin too," he says. "Who wouldn't?"
"I love empire, I love power, I love achievement," he goes on, growing animated. Spencer loves imperialism so much, he says, that he'll sometimes "get a boner" reading about Napoleon.
I first meet Spencer at the Republican National Convention in July, at a party headlined by Milo Yiannopoulos, the Breitbart editor and self-described "dangerous ######" who tours college campuses to rail against "social justice warriors," political correctness and the left in general. (Spencer perceives Yiannopoulos as a fellow traveler of sorts, but not truly Alt-Right; he does, however, see Yiannopoulos' followers as ripe for Alt-Right recruitment.) The crowd, Spencer later notes, is populated by lots of Alt-Right "####lords" – a form of high praise on social media that designates true believers. They're wildly excited about a speech by far-right Dutch politician Geert Wilders, who's attending the convention as a guest of the Tennessee Republican Party. After a lengthy diatribe about "so-called leaders" who've allowed "Eurabia" to be overrun by Muslims and who "do not defend our liberty, our sovereignty, our values, our national identity," Wilders elicits loud chants of "Trump! Trump! Trump!"
After the speeches, as the crowd mingles, Spencer reflects on the significance of what he sees as Trump's affinity for white nationalism. "It's not so much about policy – it's more about the emotions that he evokes," he says. "And emotions are more important than facts. Trump sincerely and genuinely cares about Americans, and white Americans in particular."
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Those ideas boil down to open racism. The Alt-Right, Spencer says, "opposes the basic ideas behind the Civil Rights Act." He's called Martin Luther King Jr. "the god of white dispossession," the latter being one of the Alt-Right's major obsessions. True "####lords" are gripped by the fear that white people in America are being "dispossessed" by immigration and multi-culturalism, to the point that they face an imminent "white genocide." Spencer has called anti-discrimination laws "the enemy of all tradition, not just the Anglo-Saxon American society it has helped destroy."
The Alt-Right, in Spencer's formulation, signals a sharp break from Ted Cruz-style Christian right politics, which frames the United States as a Christian nation, as well as Ron Paul-style libertarianism that portrays government as an oppressive, freedom-crushing behemoth. So Spencer says he is neither a libertarian nor a constitutionalist, but rather a "statist" – one with a weak commitment to constitutional democracy. "The important thing," he says, "is that the people in charge are people like me."
More recently, in a podcast recorded after the exposure of the so-called Trump tape, Spencer scoffed at the "puritanical" criticism of Trump, saying it's "ridiculous" to call what Trump was talking about sexual assault. "At some part of every woman's soul," he said, "they want to be taken by a strong man." Pointing to how Trump said he had taken Nancy O'Dell furniture shopping, Spencer added, "Is this really the worst thing you've ever heard? In a way, he's like the most gentlemanly, kindly philanderer of all time."
I find it interesting that these self-described "Alphas" of the alt-right really just seem to want someone in power that will dominate them and make them his Beta. I suspect he may be projecting a bit when it comes to the bolded part above and the Napoleon boner quote.
That is terrible, if this video is representative he would release the whole uncut video instead of this garbage. He appears to be an hypothetical conversation about how you could rig an election as opposed to how he rigged an election.
Also this conspiracy would require 10,000+ people to make a difference even in a close state so if this actually occurred a whistle blower would report it.
Do you really believe that bussing across state lines on a mass scale actually has occurred. You also owe me 15 minutes of my life back.
This is the textbook on shutting down a conversation
1. It's not real
2. It's a conspiracy that's impossible
3. "Do you really believe"
those buzzwords of conspiracy and believe are a pretty strong tell someone has made up their mind way before critical thought.
That is terrible, if this video is representative he would release the whole uncut video instead of this garbage. He appears to be an hypothetical conversation about how you could rig an election as opposed to how he rigged an election.
Also this conspiracy would require 10,000+ people to make a difference even in a close state so if this actually occurred a whistle blower would report it.
Do you really believe that bussing across state lines on a mass scale actually has occurred. You also owe me 15 minutes of my life back.
This story is starting to slowly get picked up in normal mainstream media
There are articles in the Boston Herald
and the Washington times just put up a piece.
Both have linked the Project Veritas video to wiki leaked emails from Hillary's campaign workers. Especially since they called the tasks by the specific name of birddogging.
Foval was let go, or asked to fall on his sword, one of the two.
This probably won't effect Hillary's campaign much because Trump is doing an exceptional job of self destruction.
But Project Veritas really needs to release the un-edited video if they want this to have any sort of effect on the election.
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Per @KatyTurNBC, there are more Trump surprise guests in store for the debate, in addition to Obama's half-brother & Benghazi mom Pat Smith
This story is starting to slowly get picked up in normal mainstream media
There are articles in the Boston Herald
and the Washington times just put up a piece.
Both have linked the Project Veritas video to wiki leaked emails from Hillary's campaign workers. Especially since they called the tasks by the specific name of birddogging.
Foval was let go, or asked to fall on his sword, one of the two.
This probably won't effect Hillary's campaign much because Trump is doing an exceptional job of self destruction.
But Project Veritas really needs to release the un-edited video if they want this to have any sort of effect on the election.
From everything I've read about O'Keefe and Project Veritas, his videos have been repeatedly debunked over the years. The media is ignoring it because it's very likely a load of crap.
From everything I've read about O'Keefe and Project Veritas, his videos have been repeatedly debunked over the years. The media is ignoring it because it's very likely a load of crap.
Yet another buzzword to kill discussion. "Debunked"
Conspiracy theorist
Do you really believe
Nutbag
Tinfoil hat
Debunked
Just a few of the fun ways to instantly discredit someone and end critical thought before it starts. I'm far from a genius political scientist but I do have a degree in psychology and studied linguistics for years. It's easier to dismiss something than actually have to think about it even if it's not true.
From everything I've read about O'Keefe and Project Veritas, his videos have been repeatedly debunked over the years. The media is ignoring it because it's very likely a load of crap.
Except that Foval was on tape and was fired. You can say its crap as much as you want, and right now it could very well be. But if he wants people to believe it then O'keefe has to release the raw unedited footage.
but the link to the wikileaks email where they talk about birdogging, and Foval's termination has a smoke its fire thing.
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Monica Lewinsky would obviously be the prime candidate as another possible guest. Who else could there be? I wanna say Vince McMahon but he's too smart for something this dumb.
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Except that Foval was on tape and was fired. You can say its crap as much as you want, and right now it could very well be. But if he wants people to believe it then O'keefe has to release the raw unedited footage.
but the link to the wikileaks email where they talk about birdogging, and Foval's termination has a smoke its fire thing.
Yeah, I don't get the hand-waving. This is a thing. Just like the audio recording of Trump bragging about his sexual assualts confirmed what people already knew, these emails/videos confirm that the Clinton campaign is a cynical political machine that will win power at all costs with absolutely zero principle.
This is not enough to make her lose the election (I believe the Trump recordings are sufficient for that purpose), but it will impact her presidency to the extent that many Americans don't trust her, many Americans are voting for her to stop a potential Trump victory, and it will hamper her effectiveness.
That said, the real story is how much Trump has destroyed upstream and downstream GOP candidates. If the Dems take the House, then it doesn't matter whether or not Clinton is POTUS.
