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Old 10-18-2014, 11:08 AM   #3101
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I'm not so sure that would count as a fake day action. It is a power you had that could very well have reset. I think the meaning of the rule is to avoid people making up powers to use, then say it was blocked. We all know rathji had that power, and could have been reset.

I think rathji should try to use it.
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Old 10-18-2014, 11:22 AM   #3102
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I'm not so sure that would count as a fake day action. It is a power you had that could very well have reset. I think the meaning of the rule is to avoid people making up powers to use, then say it was blocked. We all know rathji had that power, and could have been reset.

I think rathji should try to use it.
Mazrim already said it wasn't reset so Rathji has nothing.

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Just received a note from mazrim, no reset on the kill

heading to bed, cant watch the screen at all anyway
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Old 10-18-2014, 11:23 AM   #3103
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Agreed. Rathji had this power, used it and because of the rewind it's plausible he has the ability to use it again. I don't see it as posting a fake day action because it's something he's had and still might have. The truth definitely comes into question.

If I was to post some kill request, that would obviously be a fake day action because my power already has been revealed and there's nothing plausible about my power that would suggest I even have a kill. That's what I think Mazrim wants to avoid.
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Old 10-18-2014, 11:24 AM   #3104
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Agreed with starseed, not girly sports. Damn slow phone typing.
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Old 10-18-2014, 11:43 AM   #3105
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Mazrim already said it wasn't reset so Rathji has nothing.
No, Rathji said that he received it from Mazrim. We don't know if he has or not and so getting him to post another action is the way to verify it. The rewind gives us some doubt that it's gone.

By your same logic I could claim that Mazrim sent me a PM stating he wants all of the scum to identify themselves immediately and if anyone questioned it just keep pointing out that since I got a message from Mazrim, it must be right. It wouldn't be fully debunked until Mazrim stepped in himself and said something or until someone brought up a really good reason why that statement doesn't make sense.

(The above is an example. Obviously I have no message from Mazrim like that and am not suggesting I do. I wish I did, that would make this much easier, but I don't. Please don't modkill me Maz)
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Old 10-18-2014, 11:47 AM   #3106
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So now I'm sober and hooked up with pain meds, I re-read everything.

So with formulate being a SK, he is neither mafia or town? So if I had investigated Bizarro's death, no faction would come up? After he gets lynched, there's really no use for my power, right? And was it explained why there was no SK on night 2?

I keep having the feeling that there's something weird with the amount of mafia... with the 5 that are suspected mafia, I can't believe that we got it figured out so quick. There's got to be another twist. Or someone is lying about a power they have or they have a town power, but they are mafia... Are any of these theories making sense?

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Old 10-18-2014, 11:49 AM   #3107
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Also Rathji I've noticed you haven't posted any lists of who you are suspicious of or who you think is town recently. Not sure if I missed it though. Any thoughts going into tomorrow?
Been in hospital yesterday and today, looking at phone/pc hurts eyes.

I think it was oling made a post that I more or so so agree with.

Top of my list right now is Aeneas, and mrkajz or however you spell it.

Will ask Mazrim if I can attempt to reuse ability even after he has confirmed it won't work.
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Old 10-18-2014, 12:05 PM   #3108
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Rathjis still a suspect, he could easily be lying because he doesn't want to use the kill on his mafia buddy squiggs

Only way to prove it is just type kill squiggs in bold and see if it works, or Mazrim can confirm with the town the powers gone
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Old 10-18-2014, 12:05 PM   #3109
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No, Rathji said that he received it from Mazrim. We don't know if he has or not and so getting him to post another action is the way to verify it. The rewind gives us some doubt that it's gone.

By your same logic I could claim that Mazrim sent me a PM stating he wants all of the scum to identify themselves immediately and if anyone questioned it just keep pointing out that since I got a message from Mazrim, it must be right. It wouldn't be fully debunked until Mazrim stepped in himself and said something or until someone brought up a really good reason why that statement doesn't make sense.

(The above is an example. Obviously I have no message from Mazrim like that and am not suggesting I do. I wish I did, that would make this much easier, but I don't. Please don't modkill me Maz)
Drury. I think you could do that because it's not an action. You can say whatever you want. Rathji can say whatever he wants. But once Rathji types "KILL: XXX" without having a dayvig in his possession, he's breaking the rules I think.
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Old 10-18-2014, 12:11 PM   #3110
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Did I miss something? Why wouldn't he have it? Time was rewound to a time when he had the power.
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Old 10-18-2014, 12:26 PM   #3111
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Did I miss something? Why wouldn't he have it? Time was rewound to a time when he had the power.
Rathji is either lying or it was a side effect of the rewind. I didn't know the exact side effects of the rewind because Mazrim wouldn't comment on them. It made sense to me that the power would come back though, I'm sorry if it didn't.
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Old 10-18-2014, 12:27 PM   #3112
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Rathji is either lying or it was a side effect of the rewind. I didn't know the exact side effects of the rewind because Mazrim wouldn't comment on them. It made sense to me that the power would come back though, I'm sorry if it didn't.
Actually it makes sense that players don't get abilities back or else you could just reuse your rewind power every day.
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Old 10-18-2014, 12:28 PM   #3114
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Actually it makes sense that players don't get abilities back or else you could just reuse your rewind power every day.
My rewind was a one shot power.
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Old 10-18-2014, 12:29 PM   #3115
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Now we wait. I don't really understand why we would lose the kill though. Maybe the timing of the invite and accept threw it off?

Rathji - I think the rewind is a one shot type power, so I think getting abilities back makes sense
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Old 10-18-2014, 12:32 PM   #3116
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My rewind was a one shot power.
So was the kill, so not sure what you are saying.

In retrospect, I shouldn't have asked Mazrim if I could do it, and just done it a second time.

Or asked before I even used it the first time, to see if I would get it back, but I suspect he would have given the same vague answer that he gave Hg.
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Old 10-18-2014, 12:39 PM   #3117
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So was the kill, so not sure what you are saying.

In retrospect, I shouldn't have asked Mazrim if I could do it, and just done it a second time.

Or asked before I even used it the first time, to see if I would get it back, but I suspect he would have given the same vague answer that he gave Hg.
You said it made sense the players did get their power back or I could just use mine everyday. I couldn't use it everyday, I could only use it once.
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Old 10-18-2014, 12:41 PM   #3118
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In theory we can't post until Maz comes in to resolve the daykill
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Old 10-18-2014, 12:44 PM   #3119
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Do NOT post fake day actions, please. Especially if you know you've already asked me about it.
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Well I think this confirms Maz is mafia.
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