The Tariff Thread

[puffnstuff]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

In an attempt to correct US trade deficits, Trump has created a new trade deficit. In wine. Somehow. What's next, we start exporting them NFL teams?

Well...
Roger Goodell, commissioner of the NFL, the professional American football league, announced this Sunday that for the 2025 season, the league will hold eight games outside the United States, with destinations that include Mexico and Brazil, as well as Spain at the Santiago Bernabéu Stadium in Madrid, which was announced last February.

This will be the first time in history that the NFL relocates up to eight regular-season games outside the United States. Until the current season, the maximum number of such games had been five.

[Fuzz]

Other countries should detain the players, just for some fun.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Just the teams from red states though... sorry Cam Ward, get ready to learn Portugese my man.

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

In an attempt to correct US trade deficits, Trump has created a new trade deficit. In wine. Somehow. What's next, we start exporting them NFL teams?

Hmm, I wonder what caused the massive drop in exports from the US to Canada??

[Locke]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Well...
Roger Goodell, commissioner of the NFL, the professional American football league, announced this Sunday that for the 2025 season, the league will hold eight games outside the United States, with destinations that include Mexico and Brazil, as well as Spain at the Santiago Bernabéu Stadium in Madrid, which was announced last February.

This will be the first time in history that the NFL relocates up to eight regular-season games outside the United States. Until the current season, the maximum number of such games had been five.

I'm not a hand-egg fan, so genuine question, but how are the attendance numbers for those?

I cant imagine anyone in Mexico, Brazil or Spain giving half a crap about an NFL game.

England? They just love to gamble. The English will bet on anything, so maybe, but they also take their Football (Soccer) and Rugby really seriously so...maybe? Sports are Religion in Europe.

But the Bernabeu for example is an 83,000 seat stadium, sure you could probably fill that in America, but are there that many NFL fans in Spain?

So...what are the economics of this like for these foreign games? Do they make a lot of money? Sell merch?

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Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

I work with a lot of different Steel Fabricators. They're unanimous in not wanting broad based counter tarrifs on the US products many of them need.

As an example what most of the public refers to as I beams (and no they're not I beams)...those are no longer made in Canada. They're only produced in the United States, China, and sometimes from Korea, and occasionally the really heavy ones can come from Luxemburg of all places. In many cases owners do spec that the Chinese products are not permitted. So a counter Tariff on those now increases the cost for them, and it's pretty much a staple in Steel Construction. There are programs to eventually recover some of these costs, but it's a process that takes time, and a fair bit of administrative work to apply for. So it's a double whammy in that a lot of them can no longer sell to the US and are losing that revenue stream, but they're seeing their cost go up on a product that is essential to their business.

I'd say most also agree that some action does need to be taken, especially when you consider the excess of Flat Roll, Merchants and Rebar Canada will be producing, the problem is it's not really the US that needs to face action, because they will inflate and price themselves out of the market, but rather other importers who are also losing the US as a market and looking to dump, so that we protect our remaining mills, and are not exposed to these weaknesses on those categories in the future.

the problems your are talking about with "I-Beams" in the context of construction are is largely an architectural / industrial momentum problem. For most applications a Canadian made alternative does exist and is likely to be cost effective, it's just not the way things are currently done. Cold formed Girts, Welded or Bolted Girders, Welded Flange.... Most don't want to deal with the issue, but if pushed options do exist.