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Robbob · 10-15-2020, 08:25 AM

Can't re-sign him until he is in his final year. Which is part of the conundrum. If you are the Flames and you get the sense he won't re-sign, then he has more value to trade with a couple years left. So it will be this entire song and dance based on speculation. Even if Gaudreau wants to stay, nothing can be done until after this season.

flambers · 10-15-2020, 08:31 AM

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Can't re-sign him until he is in his final year. Which is part of the conundrum. If you are the Flames and you get the sense he won't re-sign, then he has more value to trade with a couple years left. So it will be this entire song and dance based on speculation. Even if Gaudreau wants to stay, nothing can be done until after this season.

I would think the Flames would already have a pretty good idea if they can re-sign Gaudreau.

My guess the answer is no.

If that's the case, they should look to see if they can trade him this offseason if they can find the right return

As the return next season, will likely be lower.

dissentowner · 10-15-2020, 08:43 AM

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I would think the Flames would already have a pretty good idea if they can re-sign Gaudreau.

My guess the answer is no.

If that's the case, they should look to see if they can trade him this offseason if they can find the right return

As the return next season, will likely be lower.

I also think the Flames have a good idea if they can re-sign him or not and my guess is easily yes. I think if they felt he was looking at moving on they would have traded him already. There would be a boatload of interest in Gaudreau, he wouldn't be hard to trade at all. The Philly comment he made is once again people loving to twist what he said. He never said he wanted to play for the Flyers, he was put on the spot where he gave a vague answer. He went into very specific reasons at the end of the year why there was no truth to him wanting to go play East. If he actually wanted to play East he would have gave a vague short answer. People saying he wants to actually play close to home and is just bs the fans and telling them what they want to hear is just people trying to convince themselves and others that because that is what they want to see happen it is reality. Welcome to social media where half of what you read is someone's bs opinion pushed as reality.

Robbob · 10-15-2020, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by flambers

I would think the Flames would already have a pretty good idea if they can re-sign Gaudreau.

My guess the answer is no.

If that's the case, they should look to see if they can trade him this offseason if they can find the right return

As the return next season, will likely be lower.

I agree, I think the Problem Treliving is having, is that 30 Gms know the situation he is in. The rumours that have been going around probably show what he has been offered and I pretty sure the general consensus is they are trash.

Monahammer · 10-15-2020, 08:46 AM

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Consensus by who? The fans? Lmao. It is hilarious how the Gaudreau bashers will completely ignore what the guy said himself to continue to push their own version of events led by their guru Eric Francis. If Gaudreau leaves it will be because Tre thinks it makes the team better via the pieces coming back or the Flames can't fit him in the budget. If Gaudreau is traded I can't wait for Francis to fix on Tkachuk next as wanting out because that is his schtick. He will preach about how he wants to play in the US, preferably in St Louis and a bunch of you will eat that crap up despite what Tkachuk or anyone else says.

I think it's hilarious that you believe whatever comes out of the mouths of NHLers. Did you believe Hall when he said he only wanted to win before signing with f'in buffalo? Hockey players are trained to lie to the media and say only things that will not ruffle the fan base or negate their potential value.

You're insufferable sometimes. Literally just copy and paste your posts at this point dude.

dissentowner · 10-15-2020, 08:47 AM

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I agree, I think the Problem Treliving is having, is that 30 Gms know the situation he is in. The rumours that have been going around probably show what he has been offered and I pretty sure the general consensus is they are trash.

What rumours of what he has been offered? The brainstorm of CP posters? The random blogs of other teams fanboys? The trade speculation board at HF? Can you link me a legit insider that has said teams have made offers on Gaudreau and what trash they are?

dissentowner · 10-15-2020, 08:48 AM

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I think it's hilarious that you believe whatever comes out of the mouths of NHLers. Did you believe Hall when he said he only wanted to win before signing with f'in buffalo? Hockey players are trained to lie to the media and say only things that will not ruffle the fan base or negate their potential value.

You're insufferable sometimes. Literally just copy and paste your posts at this point dude.

Then put me on ignore, quit whining about it because I have a differing opinion, and shut your hole. Nobody wants to hear your endless whining because you disagree. Try having an actual thought for once, that would be a change.

Monahammer · 10-15-2020, 08:48 AM

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What rumours of what he has been offered? The brainstorm of CP posters? The random blogs of other teams fanboys? The trade speculation board at HF? Can you link me a legit insider that has said teams have made offers on Gaudreau and what trash they are?

We've had this exact conversation like 100 times.

Monahammer · 10-15-2020, 08:49 AM

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Then put me on ignore, quit whining about it because I have a differing opinion, and shut your hole. Nobody wants to hear your endless whining because you disagree.

My endless whining! Talk about projection. Your last 30 posts are all whining about people talking about maybe trading Gaudreau. Jesus.

ah123 · 10-15-2020, 08:50 AM

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I agree, I think the Problem Treliving is having, is that 30 Gms know the situation he is in. The rumours that have been going around probably show what he has been offered and I pretty sure the general consensus is they are trash.

I think every GM knows the bind that every other GM is in, I think there are very few secrets in that world

dissentowner · 10-15-2020, 08:51 AM

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My endless whining! Talk about projection. Your last 30 posts are all whining about people talking about maybe trading Gaudreau. Jesus.

No, I am giving my reasons why I think he won't be traded. Because that does not fit your agenda you attack my posts and throw a temper tantrum like a 10 year old that had his toys taken away. You are not adding anything to the discussion. I am allowed to have a differing opinion. If you don't like it I don't care but stop cluttering the thread with your insufferable whining about it.

Table 5 · 10-15-2020, 08:52 AM

Now I mainly want Gaudreau traded just to see how dissentowner will react.

Robbob · 10-15-2020, 08:54 AM

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I think every GM knows the bind that every other GM is in, I think there are very few secrets in that world

Exactly, harder to make these trades. Throw a flat cap and pandemic in on top and things are that much harder.

dissentowner · 10-15-2020, 08:54 AM

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Now I mainly want Gaudreau traded just to see how dissentowner will react.

If it makes the team better I will be happy. I never said we should not trade Johnny, I said the reason he will be traded will be to improve the team or because the finances don't work, not because he can't wait to play out East.

Since1984 · 10-15-2020, 08:57 AM

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thoughts on Mackenzie Weegar - RS D - FLA (RFA) for Ryan?

saves us some cap , as could sign likely for around 2 mil or less and fills out bottom pairing D. Looks like he was on the 2nd PK unit as well. Only 26 years old.

FLA could use a bottom 6 center.

I'd take him strictly for the fact that I know Blaster wants him on Vancouver.

PepsiFree · 10-15-2020, 08:59 AM

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My endless whining! Talk about projection. Your last 30 posts are all whining about people talking about maybe trading Gaudreau. Jesus.

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No, I am giving my reasons why I think he won't be traded. Because that does not fit your agenda you attack my posts and throw a temper tantrum like a 10 year old that had his toys taken away. You are not adding anything to the discussion. I am allowed to have a differing opinion. If you don't like it I don't care but stop cluttering the thread with your insufferable whining about it.

Gonna be honest, after reading the 100th version of this exchange between you two, it’d really be nice if you either both put each other on ignore or just grew the #### up already and hugged it out.

I don’t even care who is right. It’s just annoying.

Robbob · 10-15-2020, 08:59 AM

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What rumours of what he has been offered? The brainstorm of CP posters? The random blogs of other teams fanboys? The trade speculation board at HF? Can you link me a legit insider that has said teams have made offers on Gaudreau and what trash they are?

I think there is enough smoke around to get a general sense. It doesn't mean that Treliving will trade him, but from Friedman we know they are listening. Why wouldn't he, that is his job.

If even half of what has been speculated as offered then we know why Gaudreau is still in Flames silks. GMs can be predatory in nature and will circle trying to take advantage of anything. If CP was the GM, half the roster would have been traded for a bag of pucks after game 6.

dissentowner · 10-15-2020, 09:05 AM

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Gonna be honest, after reading the 100th version of this exchange between you two, it’d really be nice if you either both put each other on ignore or just grew the #### up already and hugged it out.

I don’t even care who is right. It’s just annoying.

I am not starting anything. Every time I have a differing opinion he throws a tantrum about it. Why should I be degraded for taking an opposing argument on a subject? Isn't that what discussion boards are about? He was welcome to state why he disagreed instead of complaining I have an opposing opinion. Trust me, I am tired of it as well.

nik- · 10-15-2020, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Gonna be honest, after reading the 100th version of this exchange between you two, it’d really be nice if you either both put each other on ignore or just grew the #### up already and hugged it out.

I don’t even care who is right. It’s just annoying.

Nah, let them fight. It's not like it derails all the serious discussion in the fantasy magic trade talk thread.

Jay Random · 10-15-2020, 09:10 AM

Guys, there is no possible question of Gaudreau re-signing in Calgary. He never signed with Calgary in the first place, remember? It was guaranteed that he would wait out his NCAA eligibility and go straight to free agency. All kinds of people on CP predicted it back in the day, and they were obviously right, because nobody ever went wrong predicting that bad things would happen to the Calgary Flames.

I don't even know why you're spending so much time arguing about a guy who's been a Philadelphia Flyer for the last six years.