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View Poll Results: Donald Trump's first 100 days have been a success.
Agree 45 11.00%
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Old 05-15-2017, 02:01 PM   #3061
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Meanwhile the WH and Trump will no longer answer any questions about the tapes he made of his conversation with Comey over dinner. Either the recordings exist and they are in big legal trouble and lawyers have told them as much, or he got caught with a gigantic lie that implicated him of illegal activities.
Yeah, Spicey sure shuts that question down quick.
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Old 05-15-2017, 02:03 PM   #3062
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Ugh it seems that all these f'ups bounce off of Trump like raisins off an Oldsmobile...when is something going to really bring him down?
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Ugh it seems that all these f'ups bounce off of Trump like raisins off an Oldsmobile...when is something going to really bring him down?
When the GOP feels retention of both houses is in serious jeopardy. That's really it. They only care about re-election and control so they'll put up with anything until that is under threat.

The most you'll get from them until then is a strongly worded letter from McCain and his ilk.
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Ugh it seems that all these f'ups bounce off of Trump like raisins off an Oldsmobile...when is something going to really bring him down?
Maybe when accountability becomes a bipartisan concern.
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http://www.oregonlive.com/today/inde....html#comments

Not that I believe in this, but it's just an article against Trump that was posted by the Oregonian. It also links to a documentary titled "The Dubious Friends of Donald Trump", which is interesting if you take it at face value.

Here's part two as well, this one about the Donald's ties to the shady world of diamonds:

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When the GOP feels retention of both houses is in serious jeopardy. That's really it. They only care about re-election and control so they'll put up with anything until that is under threat.

The most you'll get from them until then is a strongly worded letter from McCain and his ilk.
Donald Trump's poll numbers should terrify Republicans

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/15/politi...trump-polling/

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The new Gallup tracking poll released Monday afternoon put Trump's job approval rating at just 38%, the lowest mark he has reached since April 1. That jibes with a new NBC-Wall Street Journal poll released Sunday that pegged Trump's job performance at 39% approval. A Quinnipiac University poll conducted before Trump fired FBI director James Comey last Tuesday showed Trump's approval at a meager 36%.

In fact, the Real Clear Politics average of all polls on Trump's approval/disapproval now stands at 40.9% approval while his disapproval sits at 53.8%.

"Since 1946, when presidents are above 50% approval, their party loses an average of 14 seats in the U.S. House in the midterm elections, compared with an average loss of 36 seats when presidents are below that mark."

What would set off total panic? A loss in either or both of the special House elections in Montana (May 25) or Georgia (June 20). Both are seats in what should be safe Republican territory. Defeat in either one would suggest Trump's unpopularity is a major drag downballot. And that realization would create absolute chaos among Congressional Republicans.
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Donald Trump's poll numbers should terrify Republicans

What would set off total panic? A loss in either or both of the special House elections in Montana (May 25) or Georgia (June 20). Both are seats in what should be safe Republican territory. Defeat in either one would suggest Trump's unpopularity is a major drag downballot. And that realization would create absolute chaos among Congressional Republicans.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/15/politi...trump-polling/
I for one welcome this upcoming "Every GOP member" for themselves chaos.
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The Rats will start to jump ship soon, if Trump does his 2.0 reboot by firing lots of people I think we will finally start to see more people distance themselves.
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It is difficult to take polls at face value after the election results pretty much defied most polls.

And I think a lot of consveratives/Republicans that claim not to be big Trump people, still support him behind closed doors.
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Maybe the Dems should give the GOP a quick policy win (tax cut), since the GOP is just holding onto Trump until they can get some policies through...then bail on him.

If they got a win maybe they could bail on Trump sooner...I am really concerned that a war or other major event (see Riechstag fire; jar jar binks speech) will give Trump a chance to entrench himself into a proper Dicktator (sic).
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Oh my. This doesn't help the 'not a puppet' narrative. Trump may have revealed highly classified intelligence information to Russia, provided to the US intelligence community by an ally and not authorized to be shared with anyone.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.bbc7c125c9e2

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Oh my. This doesn't help the 'not a puppet' narrative. Trump may have revealed highly classified intelligence information to Russia, provided to the US intelligence community by an ally and not authorized to be shared with anyone.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.bbc7c125c9e2
This is awful. I know some posters think Trump is fine, but I just don't know how you can rationalize this
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Maybe the Dems should give the GOP a quick policy win (tax cut), since the GOP is just holding onto Trump until they can get some policies through...then bail on him.

If they got a win maybe they could bail on Trump sooner...I am really concerned that a war or other major event (see Riechstag fire; jar jar binks speech) will give Trump a chance to entrench himself into a proper Dicktator (sic).
The GOP isn't holding on to Trump for policy reasons. They control the house Trump or no Trump.

They won't defect until it's the safe thing to do. If the break now, and the rest don't break with them, they've done more to submarine their career than staying with Trump.

If, for example, a congressman ditches Trump and this blows over, they'll have no support from the GOP on their re-election bid. Is a momentum thing. Once a few key Congressman bail, it'll look like the Titanic
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It is difficult to take polls at face value after the election results pretty much defied most polls.

And I think a lot of consveratives/Republicans that claim not to be big Trump people, still support him behind closed doors.
Not really. Virtually every single poll in the last few days prior to the election had Clinton with a 2-4 point lead and she ended up winning the popular vote by 2.1 points. There's no reason to think that opinion polls (in the aggregate at least) aren't an accurate reflection of how the country feels about Trump.
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Oh my. This doesn't help the 'not a puppet' narrative. Trump may have revealed highly classified intelligence information to Russia, provided to the US intelligence community by an ally and not authorized to be shared with anyone.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.bbc7c125c9e2

ahhhhhh

remember the days with the Trump rallies would be chanting "lock her up, lock her up" to Hillary for using a private email server? Something that Colin Powell also did btw?

and my understanding was that none of those emails contained classified information, at the time they were emailed.


While some of those emails contained information that was later reclassified as classified documents, that's hardly illegal - terrible misjudgment and poorly thought out? Absolutely one can make that argument...

any chance these folks chant "Lock him up, Lock him up" to Trump for exposing classified intelligence to Russia?! they probably won't even admit it was wrong...

the hypocrisy of that base is mind blowing...
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Oh my. This doesn't help the 'not a puppet' narrative. Trump may have revealed highly classified intelligence information to Russia, provided to the US intelligence community by an ally and not authorized to be shared with anyone.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.bbc7c125c9e2
This is a pretty big story. I wonder if this will have any effect, or if it'll just bounce off him like everything else. You'd have to think that even some Republicans would be furious over something like this. I know they're all a bunch of spineless assclowns, but even the most loyal Trump apologist must have a breaking point, right? Or maybe that's just wishful thinking.

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But officials expressed concern about Trump’s handling of sensitive information as well as his grasp of the potential consequences. Exposure of an intelligence stream that has provided critical insight into the Islamic State, they said, could hinder the United States’ and its allies’ ability to detect future threats.

“It is all kind of shocking,” said a former senior U.S. official who is close to current administration officials. “Trump seems to be very reckless and doesn’t grasp the gravity of the things he’s dealing with, especially when it comes to intelligence and national security. And it’s all clouded because of this problem he has with Russia.”
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Donald Trump’s Advisers Slip Him Fake News Stories to Influence Him

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That Zembla investigative stuff was very interesting, had no idea about the Kushner's and their close ties to Netanyahoooo and funding expansionist settlements in to the Palestinian territories.
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Two US officials who were briefed on Trump’s disclosures last week confirmed to BuzzFeed News the veracity of the Post report, with one official noting that “it’s far worse than what has already been reported.”

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After news of Trump's revelations broke Monday, Sen. Bob Corker — a Tennessee Republican and chairman of the Foreign Relations committee — said "obviously they're in a downward spiral right now and they've got to figure out a way to come to grips with all that's happening."

"And the shame of it is, there's a really good national security team in place...but the chaos that is being created by the lack of discipline is creating an environment that I think makes — it creates a worrisome environment," Corker told reporters in Washington, DC, Monday afternoon.


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