2024 NHL Draft Thread

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Actually no. The Flames get the money directly from the season ticket holder. What happens after that is not really relevant to the Flames.

And on the secondary market, tickets are usually sold at below face value.

That’s just describing the function of the transaction, not the reality. The person sitting in the seat is the person who paid the to go to the game. It doesn’t matter if it passes through a season ticket holder. They paid for the game, and they’re the ones spending money AT the game.

It’s all a bit irrelevant anyways. Season ticket holder =/= hardcore fan. Especially when they’re selling a bunch of their tickets.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

That’s just describing the function of the transaction, not the reality. The person sitting in the seat is the person who paid the to go to the game. It doesn’t matter if it passes through a season ticket holder. They paid for the game, and they’re the ones spending money AT the game.

It’s all a bit irrelevant anyways. Season ticket holder =/= hardcore fan. Especially when they’re selling a bunch of their tickets.

But without the season ticket holder, that fan who has to buy tickets at a discount or get them for free wouldn’t be there. The season ticket revenue is what pays the majority of expenses, not the pizza slices.

And it not like most season ticket holders sell most of their tickets. I am a season ticket holder and I sell tickets occasionally, and always to CP’ers, and always at a discount. So, those aren’t casual fans sitting in those seats.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Boumsalot

Drafting Iginla would be a huge ticket seller. I say we go all in and trade for the young stud no matter the price.

This is terrible asset management.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

You're right, it was a little ridiculous, but not for Calgary.

My spidey sense tells me you're not a Flames fan and would hate to see another Iginla crush your team.

Been watching the flames since 86?? Been on this site for years. Long enough to know your answers are usually a little more thoughtful and than this?

Why? Because a good playoff run in jr’s doesnt impress the hell out of me like it has some folks?

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Boumsalot

Drafting Iginla would be a huge ticket seller. I say we go all in and trade for the young stud no matter the price.

If Iginla is still there at 9 and the Flames draft him, great. That will be cool.

But, I think this supposed idea that the Flames will see an immediate uptick in seasons tickets might not be the best thing for Iginla or the team. First of all, what if they send him back to Jr next year? What if he’s assigned to the Wranglers for a year after that? Is there going to be public outcry to rush Iginla into the Flames lineup? All these fans with their Iginla jerseys might start to get a little impatient, which ultimately shouldn’t matter but it will be heavily discussed here and on other forms of media, you can be sure.

Iginla is a 8-15 prospect. Most of those guys don’t crack the lineup in year one or even year two and it could be 3-4 before they hit their stride. He’s not Connor Bedard. If season ticket sales spike because the Flames draft Iginla, I think there’s likely to be some disappointed folks.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by TOfan

If Iginla is still there at 9 and the Flames draft him, great. That will be cool.

But, I think this supposed idea that the Flames will see an immediate uptick in seasons tickets might not be the best thing for Iginla or the team. First of all, what if they send him back to Jr next year? What if he’s assigned to the Wranglers for a year after that? Is there going to be public outcry to rush Iginla into the Flames lineup? All these fans with their Iginla jerseys might start to get a little impatient, which ultimately shouldn’t matter but it will be heavily discussed here and on other forms of media, you can be sure.

Iginla is a 8-15 prospect. Most of those guys don’t crack the lineup in year one or even year two and it could be 3-4 before they hit their stride. He’s not Connor Bedard. If season ticket sales spike because the Flames draft Iginla, I think there’s likely to be some disappointed folks.

Maybe, maybe not. Fans can be happy unhappy about a lot of things. It is always nice to hear different opinions. We will have to wait and see on this one.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Iginla is a 8-15 prospect. Most of those guys don’t crack the lineup in year one or even year two and it could be 3-4 before they hit their stride. He’s not Connor Bedard. If season ticket sales spike because the Flames draft Iginla, I think there’s likely to be some disappointed folks.

He'll be barely 18 in training camp, safe to say he will be going back to Kelowna.

[Sylvanfan]

So say the Flames end up in a position to draft Buium. Strong chance he plays the year at University of Denver, but you need to sign him at the end of the season, burn a year of the ELC, and you have him on that for two years. If it's say Parehk or Dickenson, they play the year in junior and might make the Flames the year their ELC starts. Ideally the junior players work better for a 3-5 year rebuild to get multiple contributors on ELC at the same time. But ultimately you need the best talent and by the time the team is good you'll be paying it.

[Roof-Daddy]

Any chance Buium or Parekh end up as good as Makar?

Both their offensive numbers pre draft look very promising

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Any chance Buium or Parekh end up as good as Makar?

Both their offensive numbers pre draft look very promising

Makar is generational and probably will go down as one of the top dmen of all time
So probably not
But if you get someone 60 percent as good it’s a home run

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Any chance Buium or Parekh end up as good as Makar?

Both their offensive numbers pre draft look very promising

Possibly, I mean I actually think Parekh could end up being the best offensive D man in the NHL in his prime if he hits his ceiling. I don't think people fully grasp what he did as a 17 year old in the OHL.

[Royle9]

Parehk is as offensively gifted as Makar was at this age, honestly even more so.
But his defensive game isn’t as strong. Mind you if you want Parehk you know what you’re getting and why you want him and that’s his unmatched numbers as a 16 and 17 year old in the OHL.

Buium is more 2 way, not as fast or as dominant on the rush but definitely has the ability to generate offence on his own.

[The Cobra]

At the end of the day, many of the possible Flames have large ceilings. The trick is picking which one(s) will keep developing.

There is obviously a lot of luck in figuring that out, or there would be more consensus in the draft and less failed high picks.

I think that’s many many here are banging the Iggy drum.

Bloodlines do matter. They hope he has a better chance to keep developing, much like the Tkachuks have done.

Time will tell on that one.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Fan69

Been watching the flames since 86?? Been on this site for years. Long enough to know your answers are usually a little more thoughtful and than this?

Why? Because a good playoff run in jr’s doesnt impress the hell out of me like it has some folks?

I've been watching the Oilers since 1981, doesn't make me a fan as for Iginla I've made it clear on him many times, even without his playoffs and U18 performance it was his rapid progression as a young 17 year old that caught my eye and I suspect at the draft you'll see it wasn't just my eye.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

I've been watching the Oilers since 1981, doesn't make me a fan as for Iginla I've made it clear on him many times, even without his playoffs and U18 performance it was his rapid progression as a young 17 year old that caught my eye and I suspect at the draft you'll see it wasn't just my eye.

Probably, i have him at five or six for forwards, doesnt mean someone wont take him? my argument is for a team that has no centers and no top end defencemen is a top six winger projected our best bet? Helenius is a kid playing against men at a preferred position, hands down over jr, but i dont see crazy proposals and trades to get him.

[Sandman]

I think Iggy might just do a Mason McTavish, who was ranked on most lists in his draft year between 9 and 12, but his style of play along with a strong U-18 Tournament got him drafted early at 3rd overall. Now I don’t think Iggy’s going to picked at 3rd in this draft with all the high-end defense available, but I could see 5th overall.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I think Iggy might just do a Mason McTavish, who was ranked on most lists in his draft year between 9 and 12, but his style of play along with a strong U-18 Tournament got him drafted early at 3rd overall. Now I don’t think Iggy’s going to picked at 3rd in this draft with all the high-end defense available, but I could see 5th overall.

Wouldn’t surprise me although i would take catton or lindstrom if they are there or dickinson or buium but by all accounts montreal wants a forward.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Fan69

Wouldn’t surprise me although i would take catton or lindstrom if they are there or dickinson or buium but by all accounts montreal wants a forward.

Sadly, as much as I love Lindstrom, I think his injuries might take him out of the top-10.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Fan69

Probably, i have him at five or six for forwards, doesnt mean someone wont take him? my argument is for a team that has no centers and no top end defencemen is a top six winger projected our best bet? Helenius is a kid playing against men at a preferred position, hands down over jr, but i dont see crazy proposals and trades to get him.

Yet Helenius just played the same tourney as Iginla and he had no goals and 7 apples, Iggy was 6 and 6, I like Helenius but I don't take as much stock playing against men in the finish league as I do with the KHL or the SEL, and Helenius has about as much chance of playing center in the NHL as Iginla.

I think you'll see Iginla play as the #1 center in Kelowna next season.

[Sandman]

Finnish hockey has taken a bit of a step back in recent years, and many high-profile names that have been drafted from there seem to have issues developing. I don’t have the names right now, but I think about that often.