2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Ped]

The Canes may have gone the cheap route for now too... they have just signed Dustin Tokarski.

[Two Fivenagame]

On the fence about trading Kadri. Centre is a very difficult position in the NHL and I'd hope a player like Kadri would be available to mentor any new blue chip center we may draft/acquire. Plus he (apparently) loves Calgary.
From a player development standpoint, I think Kadri's value could be increasing every year. Just my opinion.

[Royle9]

Kuzmenko legitimately has 0 value right now.
I've been told Craig has thrown his name out there a couple times in the last few months, not a single bite.

I'd wager he would pass through waivers.

A Kadri trade (he's been very against it personally) would come with retention from the Flames and the value would be very minimal if at all for the Flames.
I believe Toronto's offer remains as David Kampf and a 5th for Kadri w/ significant retention from the Flames.

[Toonage]

I've always been under the impression that Kadri wants to be in Calgary and wouldn't move. Even brought extended family to the city. But I watch Barn Burner and they're even spit balling, and all the talk here, I'm not sure what to believe anymore. But if you can get out from his contract, of course you do it.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Kuzmenko legitimately has 0 value right now.
I've been told Craig has thrown his name out there a couple times in the last few months, not a single bite.

I'd wager he would pass through waivers.

A Kadri trade (he's been very against it personally) would come with retention from the Flames and the value would be very minimal if at all for the Flames.
I believe Toronto's offer remains as David Kampf and a 5th for Kadri w/ significant retention from the Flames.

Kampf and a 5th and significant retention = no thank you.

I'm no Kadri fan, but this is a stink bid.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Kuzmenko legitimately has 0 value right now.
I've been told Craig has thrown his name out there a couple times in the last few months, not a single bite.

I'd wager he would pass through waivers.

A Kadri trade (he's been very against it personally) would come with retention from the Flames and the value would be very minimal if at all for the Flames.
I believe Toronto's offer remains as David Kampf and a 5th for Kadri w/ significant retention from the Flames.

Trading Kadri does not make any sense, especially for that price. The Flames are awful down the middle and won’t be getting better in the next 24 months. Better to keep an actual NHL center than expose the organizational weakness even more and get screwed on some trade to get a center.

[HighLifeMan]

I can't buy that one. Kadri with significant retention is a very valuable asset even if he has stunk this season.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Toonage

I've always been under the impression that Kadri wants to be in Calgary and wouldn't move. Even brought extended family to the city. But I watch Barn Burner and they're even spit balling, and all the talk here, I'm not sure what to believe anymore. But if you can get out from his contract, of course you do it.

I have heard he'd move, just not to anywhere. Obviously he'd go to Toronto or Colorado.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Kuzmenko legitimately has 0 value right now.
I've been told Craig has thrown his name out there a couple times in the last few months, not a single bite.

I'd wager he would pass through waivers.

A Kadri trade (he's been very against it personally) would come with retention from the Flames and the value would be very minimal if at all for the Flames.
I believe Toronto's offer remains as David Kampf and a 5th for Kadri w/ significant retention from the Flames.

"He" as in Kadri or Conroy?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

I can't buy that one. Kadri with significant retention is a very valuable asset even if he has stunk this season.

I don't think so, his contract is long and he controls where he goes. If he didn't have a NMC then I could see him getting a decent return. That said if that is the return then they may as well keep him and buy him out later if they need the cap.
Zero surprise with Kuzmenko having zero value

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I don't think so, his contract is long and he controls where he goes. If he didn't have a NMC then I could see him getting a decent return. That said if that is the return then they may as well keep him and buy him out later if they need the cap.
Zero surprise with Kuzmenko having zero value

Contract length becomes inconsequential when it's only 3.5-5% of the cap with retention moving forward. At no point would that contract be a cap killer or even limiting.

He's still a top six center with cup winning experience.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

Contract length becomes inconsequential when it's only 3.5-5% of the cap with retention moving forward. At no point would that contract be a cap killer or even limiting.

He's still a top six center with cup winning experience.

Both teams he would waive for are cap strapped and will likely be going into the next two seasons. The Flames will want value for retention and I doubt Colorado or Toronto pays it.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

I can't buy that one. Kadri with significant retention is a very valuable asset even if he has stunk this season.

Everyone's welcome to their own opinion, I'm simply sharing what I've been told and what the offer from Toronto is.

Originally Posted by D as in David

"He" as in Kadri or Conroy?

Sorry he as in Kadri - Kadri controls it, he moved his direct family out here including his parents.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Kuzmenko legitimately has 0 value right now.
I've been told Craig has thrown his name out there a couple times in the last few months, not a single bite.

I'd wager he would pass through waivers.

A Kadri trade (he's been very against it personally) would come with retention from the Flames and the value would be very minimal if at all for the Flames.
I believe Toronto's offer remains as David Kampf and a 5th for Kadri w/ significant retention from the Flames.

Yikes. The Kadri offer stinks. I guess it goes to show that large contracts are tough to move during the season when caps are tougher than ever to manipulate. I just hope he can maintain the status quo for a couple more seasons where his cap hit becomes manageable, and he can be dealt in the off-season. Tre's last set of moves were aggravating.

[Niemo]

I might value Kadri more than others since I think he is the perfect 2nd line C on a contending team (that doesn't have a SS 2C already).

I also think that his contract is very easily manageable. 4 years left after this one and only the last 2 years may not be pretty. His last year is very easy to buy out (especially with the rising cap) - so really we only have 3 years left and I expect him to play to a 7MM level next year or close.

Retaining 1MM even, I would expect a 1st or no go.
Significant retention (say 50%), I would expect 2 1sts in value.

Treliving can really F off as can the media that will start spewing messages about Flames owners putting a higher price for Treliving to get any of the Flames players. Treliving hasn't come close to meeting any asks and with lowball offers like that, his final offers can go in the trash if it's just finally 'in' the ball park but not above.

[stemit14]

Based on how difficult the trade will be to make because of his NMC, age and length of contract… I’m doubtful any trade Kadri trade will happen this year (or possibly ever). When the list of teams he’s willing to be traded to is likely very short (potentially only 2 teams), Conroy ends up with very little bargaining strength in a trade negotiation.

If the return in a Kadri trade is so low and requires retention, it’s not worth trading him. If the market does not work for a Kadri trade, I’m fine with the flames focusing on the assets that do have value: Andersson, Vladar and possibly Coleman.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Yikes. The Kadri offer stinks. I guess it goes to show that large contracts are tough to move during the season when caps are tougher than ever to manipulate. I just hope he can maintain the status quo for a couple more seasons where his cap hit becomes manageable, and he can be dealt in the off-season. Tre's last set of moves were aggravating.

IMO it’s not so much the contract and more the NMC that hinders the return flames could get if kadri decided he wants to move on. He controls where he goes. I’m under the assumption he wants to stay in Calgary and probably only one team he would consider going to right now.

[Paulie Walnuts]

A bunch of people wanted to sign Kuzmenko in the offseason to an extension.

Even the Sharagovich signing felt a bit rushed.

[traptor]

Norris is already 25, has a decent cap hit and the injury history. Hope the flames are only interested if the price is very lucrative.

I'd be much more inclined to trade for Pinto or Greig.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Kuzmenko legitimately has 0 value right now.
I've been told Craig has thrown his name out there a couple times in the last few months, not a single bite.

I'd wager he would pass through waivers.

A Kadri trade (he's been very against it personally) would come with retention from the Flames and the value would be very minimal if at all for the Flames.
I believe Toronto's offer remains as David Kampf and a 5th for Kadri w/ significant retention from the Flames.

Not surprised Kuz has no value right now. He’s going to have to go on a heater from now until deadline to get anything back for him. Not going to be shocked if he plays out contract and leaves as UFA at end of season.