Like I said...i have no idea what the curriculum was in Social Studies after the cold war ended. But good stuff that it was covered even if its not any longer.
I was merely saying that the very large population still around who lived it in real time have a very different perspective on nuclear war vs those who came along after. Earlier in this thread someone suggested a pre-emptive nuke strike on Russia as an example. That made me chuckle in that, there is no such thing.
Both sides know where the other sides launch points are at any given time. Once a single missile is in the air (and hopefully they would take every precaution to be positive) then others will follow in response and so on.
Just an observation between the gens is all.
Anyone remember the air raid sirens that were once dispersed around Calgary?
IIRC there was one either in the parking lot where Glamorgan bakery is or it was across the street beside AE Cross jr high. Looked somewhat like this
I went to elementary school in the late 70s to mid 80s and remember those well. I actually remember being scared #####less of nuclear war in about grade 4 or 5, 82-83…).
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March 5 (Reuters) - Russia's foreign ministry called on European Union and NATO countries on Saturday to "stop pumping weapons" to Ukraine, the Russian RIA news agency said.
It said Moscow was particularly worried that portable anti-aerial Stinger missiles could end up in the hands of terrorists, posing a threat to airlines.
Guaranteed Russian forces will try to shoot down an airliner now and blame it on Ukrainian terrorists
It's not like other countries were warning him of these consequences if he actually started a war. Should have thought of that before sending in his crappy military.
These reporters aren't saying that white people are more important, they are simply saying that it is harder to imagine, because they are a European nation.
In countries where there has been strife for a long time, strife is not surprising. But Ukraine looks pretty first-world-ish, and has been essentially peaceful for some time. That makes the images more surprising.
Europeans. like North Americans, would tell you "it could never happen here" if you asked them. So it is more surprising.
That was what I heard from these reporters, not some thinly veiled racism.
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It's honestly pretty funny the shock and horror people are expressing, as if it wasn't obvious to literally everyone that death and destruction and horror in Western nations that more closely resemble the places we live in terms of just daily life are things people care more about than death and destruction in places that seem truly foreign. Is this new?
I would guess that if you took a survey of the populations of France, England, Canada, the USA, Australia, Germany... probably 95% of people had no idea that any of that had happened, ever. Now imagine the same sort of thing, but happening in, say, Louisiana, or Wales, or something. It'd be 24 hour news coverage on every network forever. How is anyone even slightly surprised at the difference in reaction and interest?
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These reporters aren't saying that white people are more important, they are simply saying that it is harder to imagine, because they are a European nation.
In countries where there has been strife for a long time, strife is not surprising. But Ukraine looks pretty first-world-ish, and has been essentially peaceful for some time. That makes the images more surprising.
Europeans. like North Americans, would tell you "it could never happen here" if you asked them. So it is more surprising.
That was what I heard from these reporters, not some thinly veiled racism.
I don't know, we're talking about a country that has had two revolutions in the last 20 years, was essentially invaded 8 years ago, and has been fighting an insurgency within its own borders for the last 8 years, with about 15K people being killed. There's a reason that admitting them to NATO or the EU is such a contentious issue.
Not that anyone really expected what is happening now, but in terms of stability and wealth, Ukraine has far more in common with places like Georgia or Armenia than it does somewhere like Poland or Romania. The GDP per capita for Ukraine is on par with places like Libya, Albania, and Iraq.
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These things sound trivial, but they are the things that will piss off the middle and upper classes in Russia, who would largely otherwise by unaffected by this war. Many of these people won't care about people dying in Ukraine, but they'll be right pissed when they have to get a new credit card and change over their automatic billing subscriptions.
