The New American Politics thread

[afc wimbledon]

Push comes to shove if your choice is Hillary or bat #### crazy you're going to vote Hillary.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Push comes to shove if your choice is Hillary or bat #### crazy you're going to vote Hillary.

I wouldn't either bother voting. What a horrible situation that would be.

I think that in a Hillary vs Trump scenario any sort of moderate or centrist independent, third party candidate would have a solid chance of winning the election.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Push comes to shove if your choice is Hillary or bat #### crazy you're going to vote Hillary.

If you vote. You might not if you've lost the inspiration, which is what they're worried about more than Sanders supporters suddenly radically swinging Republican.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by nik-

If you vote. You might not if you've lost the inspiration, which is what they're worried about more than Sanders supporters suddenly radically swinging Republican.

I think it will be a record turn out for minority voters, seeing as the alternative looks increasingly like cattle cars and internment camps.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by peter12

To go back to the Sanders/Clinton duel, my question is, how could anyone ever want a Clinton in the White House again?

That's a really weird thing to say, as even the right wing will generally these days admit that Bill Clintons financial policies were a remarkable success. His handling of the budget was probably some of the best in history. By the end of his term the federal budget was in surplus, and he managed to do that without making cuts that anyone would still remember. It's a remarkable achievement for any leader.

Even though some of the longterm effects of cutting down on financial regulation have turned out to be disastrous, the Clinton presidency was pretty much the last of the "good times" for the US.

[2Stonedbirds]

Except that many cite the removal of the Glass Steagall act to have contributed to the mess in 07.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Itse

That's a really weird thing to say, as even the right wing will generally these days admit that Bill Clintons financial policies were a remarkable success. His handling of the budget was probably some of the best in history. By the end of his term the federal budget was in surplus, and he managed to do that without making cuts that anyone would still remember. It's a remarkable achievement for any leader.

Even though some of the longterm effects of cutting down on financial regulation have turned out to be disastrous, the Clinton presidency was pretty much the last of the "good times" for the US.

What does that have to do with Hillary though?

She's not him.

And if she's elected as President and appoints Bill to a cabinet position, does that not reek of dynastic succession?

Lets ask the question, are people going to vote for Hillary as President or Bill as President?

[Coach]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

What does that have to do with Hillary though?

She's not him.

And if she's elected as President and appoints Bill to a cabinet position, does that not reek of dynastic succession?

Lets ask the question, are people going to vote for Hillary as President or Bill as President?

Is it a bad thing to have two competent and experienced people in the White House?

I'm not a huge fan of Hillary, and much prefer Sanders, but despite the dynastic issue of more Clintons, there are definitely much worse options.

[2Stonedbirds]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Is it a bad thing to have two competent and experienced people in the White House?

I'm not a huge fan of Hillary, and much prefer Sanders, but despite the dynastic issue of more Clintons, there are definitely much worse options.

Hillary may not be a choice, rumblings are that the FBI are preparing to indict her over mishandling of above top secret materials during her time as secretary of state. Her little flip flop empire may self destruct before Americans ever reach the polling stations.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

Hillary may not be a choice, rumblings are that the FBI are preparing to indict her over mishandling of above top secret materials during her time as secretary of state. Her little flip flop empire may self destruct before Americans ever reach the polling stations.

Link?

This would be huge.

[HockeyIlliterate]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Lets ask the question, are people going to vote for Hillary as President or Bill as President?

Honestly, I suspect that most are voting for the former in hopes of actually receiving the latter.

They will be disappointed, of course....

[2Stonedbirds]

Originally Posted by peter12

Link?

This would be huge.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/de...rticle/2581404

As of now, its a bunch of "so and so" and heresy, but the scuttlebutt is that if Lynch chooses not to follow through with indictment charges, there will be a mass exodus in the FBI and other LE agencies.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/...mends-charges/

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Any neutral news sites reporting this? The links you gave are over the top conservative/Republican sites. Can't really take those too seriously.

[2Stonedbirds]

You would have to wait for an indictment to actually happen before her puppeteer apologists announce her political demise.

[2Stonedbirds]

The sources are former house leader Tom DeLay and the opines of Rudy Giuliani.

Take it or leave it, doesn't matter to me.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

You would have to wait for an indictment to actually happen before her puppeteer apologists announce her political demise.

you mean the Lame Stream Media?

[peter12]

Real Clear Politics has a story up. It is legit.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...is_129293.html

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by 2Stonedbirds

You would have to wait for an indictment to actually happen before her puppeteer apologists announce her political demise.

I don't know, I think if something like this were on the horizon other news outlets would be all over it right now.

Who knows, maybe your sources are right. I just found it strange that there wasn't mention of this from more media outlets. Heck, Trump would be tweeting like crazy right now.

[peter12]

The RCP article makes it pretty clear that everyone is holding one giant collective breath, and will only exhale when Lynch decides whether or not to indict. If the FBI have found substantive evidence of criminal activity, then either decision will destroy her candidacy.

[ratech]

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