Climate change and human responsibility

[Fuzz]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1666276556585717760


Zing.

[Nyah]

We will likely see more instances of this. Hurricane Otis was a non-serious tropical storm that explosively intensified over just under 12 hours to a category 5 hurricane. It made landfall in Acapulco, Mexico last night. Catastrophic damage is expected. Weather models completely missed this, leaving Acapulco unprepared.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1717016668809928768

https://twitter.com/user/status/1717059947161395337

[Nyah]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1717011417348428146

[Fuzz]

That's not so good.

[Leondros]

Wow, that is wild. Having no preparation time on top of historically not having hurricanes that strong will be a recipe for disaster. It seems media didn't even really have time to get people down there for reporting.

[GirlySports]

100% of the models did NOT get this right at all. Not even close, off by four categories not close. The people there genuinely will not have had warning.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1716972676471021754

[Mazrim]

Rapid intensification in the face of persistent wind shear and dry air is also fairly unprecendented. It's rare enough that I can understand why the models didn't go that way. The NHC was forecasting above the models the day before just to be safe and while it was obviously still off the final result, they saw the potential.

[rubecube]

Listen, folks, the important thing here is that the economy will survive these extreme weather events.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

100% of the models did NOT get this right at all. Not even close, off by four categories not close. The people there genuinely will not have had warning.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1716972676471021754

That is wild. Most of the time these models are very strong in their predictive capabilities, but they work based on past data. This is a pretty strong indicator of changing environmental conditions outside of the norms in the past.

[Faust]

Climate change: Is the world warming faster than expected?

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-67360929


Scientists sound the alarm as the world briefly smashes through 2-degree warming limit for the first time

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/20/clima...int/index.html

[troutman]

My grass is still green.

[MoneyGuy]

I think we’re ****’d. I won’t be here in 30 years but most of you will be and I’m sorry for the world we’re leaving you.

*Theo says it’s all a scam so let’s hope he’s right; he’s not.

[Ozy_Flame]

There's a buzz about how attractive the Great Lakes area is going to be in the coming years, particularly for US citizens looking to get away from climate catastrophes (extreme drought in the southwest, battering storms in the southeast). Relatively low risk of natural disasters, plenty of fresh water, and (currently) affordable living. Michigan, particularly, is well suited for the coming years.

Me thinks the next 30 years are going to see migratory shifts in population bases in both the US and Canada, something that investment in infrastructure, housing policies, and job prospects will have to be accounting for.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

There's a buzz about how attractive the Great Lakes area is going to be in the coming years, particularly for US citizens looking to get away from climate catastrophes (extreme drought in the southwest, battering storms in the southeast). Relatively low risk of natural disasters, plenty of fresh water, and (currently) affordable living. Michigan, particularly, is well suited for the coming years.

Me thinks the next 30 years are going to see migratory shifts in population bases in both the US and Canada, something that investment in infrastructure, housing policies, and job prospects will have to be accounting for.

I worry a lot, lot more about international migration. A place doesn't need extreme or violent weather to become unstable. A poor agrarian country with loss of agricultural land is enough to cause massive unrest

[Ozy_Flame]

True, but with Trump and PP in power, they're going to bat migrants away with the bible and US Constitution!

[Ace]

A classmate highlighted this, I thought it was a pretty good visual when considering how Canada impacts the world (or rather how irrelevant we are), when it comes to C02.

[DownInFlames]

Originally Posted by Ace

A classmate highlighted this, I thought it was a pretty good visual when considering how Canada impacts the world (or rather how irrelevant we are), when it comes to C02.

We are also responsible for a chunk of China’s emissions since they manufacture our junk.

Japan has 3 times our population but less than double our emissions. We are one of the worst polluters on a per capita basis. Hardly irrelevant.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Ace

A classmate highlighted this, I thought it was a pretty good visual when considering how Canada impacts the world (or rather how irrelevant we are), when it comes to C02.

Okay, now do emissions per capita, how much carbon is produced by China as a result of NA exporting most of its manufacturing there and having it shipped back, etc.

[Street Pharmacist]

I am also one person of 7 Billion so I shouldn't do anything

[Ozy_Flame]

Here's what I hate about graphs like this: If China did nothing and Canada did nothing, the world on aggregate would be at current levels.

If China did nothing and Canada hit its reduction targets, the world on aggregate would be better for it. Sure it's not as big as China's net reduction of emissions, but if we can take our our proportional emmisions to a problem we all share in, why wouldn't we?

This "why bother" attitude is a false pretense for laziness and ideological backtracking.