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Old 03-05-2022, 09:35 AM   #2981
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Wife just called and said that the train she is on to Ternopol is some kind of special emergency evacuation train and a different route than what is shown on Google maps.. She confirmed it does not stop in Kyiv and she does not have to transfer (thank god). Just has to stay put.

Not sure the exact route, but hopefully it all goes well. She said the train is packed with children and has no toilets, but at least they are handing out water. She estimates it will be a 20 hours trip due to the train being a lot slower than a standard train.

They aren't sure where they are going to go when they arrive, but I read on some websites that schools and malls were hosting people arriving.

I consider today's news nothing short of a miracle, given her situation the past couple days. Fingers crossed all goes well from this point onward.
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Old 03-05-2022, 09:39 AM   #2982
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Safe travels is all we hope for at this time HW. This entire community is with you in spirit.
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I know you say it in jest, but considering two of the worlds biggest agricultural producers are at war, we may want to do that anyway as I have a feeling our agricultural products will be in high demand around the world. Sending wheat to developing countries may end up being be our most impactful humanitarian offering this decade.
I'm hoping the Canadian farmers have a better year weather wise, as we can absolutely make a big difference on the commodity side.

Canada is always on the forefront of agriculture development, and there are a lot of exciting projects in the works. Now we'll need it more than ever.
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Old 03-05-2022, 09:44 AM   #2984
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That's great news to wake up too HW. Hope things continue to improve
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Old 03-05-2022, 09:45 AM   #2985
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Manitobans can sign up to host displaced Ukrainians.

https://uccmanitoba.ca/host-ukrainian-family/

I'm assuming other provinces will also have programs in place.
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Old 03-05-2022, 09:49 AM   #2986
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Not sure the exact route, but hopefully it all goes well. She said the train is packed with children and has no toilets, but at least they are handing out water. She estimates it will be a 20 hours trip due to the train being a lot slower than a standard train.
Thoughts and prayers.
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Wife just called and said that the train she is on to Ternopol is some kind of special emergency evacuation train and a different route than what is shown on Google maps.. She confirmed it does not stop in Kyiv and she does not have to transfer (thank god). Just has to stay put.

Not sure the exact route, but hopefully it all goes well. She said the train is packed with children and has no toilets, but at least they are handing out water. She estimates it will be a 20 hours trip due to the train being a lot slower than a standard train.

They aren't sure where they are going to go when they arrive, but I read on some websites that schools and malls were hosting people arriving.

I consider today's news nothing short of a miracle, given her situation the past couple days. Fingers crossed all goes well from this point onward.

Best thing I've read today!
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Old 03-05-2022, 10:01 AM   #2988
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By the end of WWII, the USA was sending soldiers into combat with 2 weeks of basic training (it started out as 8 weeks). I'm sure any soldier with actual training is welcome in Ukraine right now.
Cliff's comment was regarding trained Canadian & Israeli soldiers and whether they would be of any use beyond guarding "stuff".

Comparing a WW2 grunt to a modern day grunt isn't really fair.

Modern day infantry need to more training to handle weapons systems, further the physicals demands are greater.

WW2 average combat load 68lbs

Modern Soldier combat load is 96lbs (if you are lucky)

Trained soldiers showing up in Ukraine = good. They will immediately slot into the Order of Battle and will most likely have a positive impact on the battlefield.

Untrained civilians showing up in Ukraine = potentially not good. They can't be slotted in, they can't even handle weapons and would have zero knowledge of tactics on a fireteam level or greater.
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Talks about efforts made by US & allies to train the Ukrainian military the past few years. Canada has been a major part of that effort. Our SOF community has had a direct impact on this war, and it must be heartening for the members to see the difference they have been able to made after the debacle in Afghanistan. We're small, but we pack a big punch.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1499833528313421829
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Old 03-05-2022, 10:15 AM   #2990
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Somebody is on their way to Washington from Russia - wonder who and what is up.

https://www.flightradar24.com/RSD088/2b07dd1e
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Old 03-05-2022, 10:19 AM   #2992
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Talks about efforts made by US & allies to train the Ukrainian military the past few years. Canada has been a major part of that effort. Our SOF community has had a direct impact on this war, and it must be heartening for the members to see the difference they have been able to made after the debacle in Afghanistan. We're small, but we pack a big punch.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1499833528313421829
It is something Canada has been doing for a while, which many Canadians might not know.

Canada is very good a providing this type of support/training.

I was in with a guy that did a tour for 1 year I think in Africa as part of a Training Cadre. Edit it was Sierra Leone 2012.


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Somebody is on their way to Washington from Russia - wonder who and what is up.

https://www.flightradar24.com/RSD088/2b07dd1e
the route the plane has to take is hilarious, due to all the closed airspace.
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Old 03-05-2022, 10:27 AM   #2994
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I don't know what to say about the people in Ukraine. I try to put myself into their shoes and I wonder if I could stand up to aggression in this manner.

Absolutely remarkable.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1500042868840452096
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Old 03-05-2022, 10:29 AM   #2995
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Wonder what is going on with this?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1500149270300798979
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Old 03-05-2022, 10:30 AM   #2996
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MOD map updates for the day. Near Kyiv, Russian Central MD grouping has pushed further south during the day near to the border, but yesterday's thrust south of Chernikiv along the roads appears to have been cut off by Ukrainian counter attacks; leaving a pocket of Russian control along the roads cut off waiting for reinforcements by either the Central or Western MD grouping. Russia's Southern MD grouping and airborne seems have continued their NW thrust past Mykolaiv seemingly intent on attacking the Yuzhnoukransk nuclear power plant and are now within 20KM of that one, cuz the last attack on the Zaporizhzia NPP went so well.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1500084970257272835
https://twitter.com/user/status/1500000875095408640

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_R...ion_of_Ukraine
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I have seen few references to both Kharkiv and Kharkov. Are these the both the same city?
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Old 03-05-2022, 10:33 AM   #2998
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I have seen few references to both Kharkiv and Kharkov. Are these the both the same city?
Ukrainian vs. Russian translated spellings of the city. I've switched to mostly the Ukrainian spellings for support.
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Beyond heartened to hear the updates HW and all the best to them here moving forward!! Giving my very best thoughts!
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Thoughts and prayers.
That does seem ill-advised, but hopefully that's the biggest risk of the trip!
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