2010 CFL Thread - Page 15 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

moon · 08-19-2010, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

So what world do you come from where a guy should be rewarded for kneeing an opponent in the body and face repeatedly well after the play has ended?

He's lucky he didn't get suspended.

The world in which Talbot started it, grabbed labinjo by the mask, and took him down to the ground.

If he didn't want Labinjo to react he was more than welcome to not act like a fake tough guy and let go of the facemask at any point.

Cecil Terwilliger · 08-19-2010, 10:22 AM

Just so we're clear, it is totally cool to hold a guy down and knee him in the face and body so long as the other guy initiated things?

Frank MetaMusil · 08-19-2010, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Just so we're clear, it is totally cool to hold a guy down and knee him in the face and body so long as the other guy initiated things?

Well, I guess this is a chicken before the egg debate. If Edmonton didn't start with the crap antics, would Labinjo have done anything? Bottom line is that the Eskimos didn't like the fact they were getting absolutely pimped and goaded Calgary into this whole situation.

moon · 08-19-2010, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Just so we're clear, it is totally cool to hold a guy down and knee him in the face and body so long as the other guy initiated things?

And is an Eskimo or Rider.

Yes then it is totally cool and should be encouraged.

dash_pinched · 08-19-2010, 10:30 AM

I just hope the Stamps don't lose a Nik Lewis or Ken-Yon Rambo to injury due to an Eskimos player's belief that they initiated something...

Erick Estrada · 08-19-2010, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dash_pinched

I just hope the Stamps don't lose a Nik Lewis or Ken-Yon Rambo to injury due to an Eskimos player's belief that they initiated something...

Did I miss something? Did someone get injured in the melee? Oh and the Samps did lose Rambo last year due to a dirty, rough play tackle.

moon · 08-19-2010, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dash_pinched

I just hope the Stamps don't lose a Nik Lewis or Ken-Yon Rambo to injury due to an Eskimos player's belief that they initiated something...

Lewis and Rambo don't have a reason to act like tough guys when getting whipped by a rival.

I also have plenty of confidence in Lewis being able to handle himself with most players in the league.

Cecil Terwilliger · 08-19-2010, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

Well, I guess this is a chicken before the egg debate. If Edmonton didn't start with the crap antics, would Labinjo have done anything? Bottom line is that the Eskimos didn't like the fact they were getting absolutely pimped and goaded Calgary into this whole situation.

I don't follow your chicken and egg logic. What Labinjo did was stupid and irresponsible and was far beyond an appropriate reaction to what Edmonton was doing. I didn't see Edmonton do anything nearly as dirty as what Labinjo did. Even if they had it doesn't excuse his actions. He's an important part of that team and should have been suspended. Labinjo is lucky he wasn't suspended for his idiotic antics.

Oh I get it. Is moon what Reggie Dunlop is to the Oilers and Mel Bridgemann is to the Canucks? No matter what the truth of the matter is just bash the other team mercilessly for laughs.

Frank MetaMusil · 08-19-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I don't follow your chicken and egg logic. What Labinjo did was stupid and irresponsible and was far beyond an appropriate reaction to what Edmonton was doing. I didn't see Edmonton do anything nearly as dirty as what Labinjo did. Even if they had it doesn't excuse his actions. He's an important part of that team and should have been suspended. Labinjo is lucky he wasn't suspended for his idiotic antics.

Oh I get it. Is moon what Reggie Dunlop is to the Oilers and Mel Bridgemann is to the Canucks? No matter what the truth of the matter is just bash the other team mercilessly for laughs.

So what should Labinjo have done for the dirtball Eskimo tactics, in your opinion?

moon · 08-19-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Oh I get it. Is moon what Reggie Dunlop is to the Oilers and Mel Bridgemann is to the Canucks? No matter what the truth of the matter is just bash the other team mercilessly for laughs.

Wrong.

Because the truth of the matter is that Labinjo did not deserve to get suspended.

Cecil Terwilliger · 08-19-2010, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

So what should Labinjo have done for the dirtball Eskimo tactics, in your opinion?

Well not holding a guy down and kneeing him in the face would be a start.

How about taking an appropriate response? Protect yourself and teammates, don't initiate anything. If protecting teammates means getting his hands dirty fine. Grab a guy, hold him down, push him away from teammate who is being attacked, whatever. Labinjo should have been trying to protect himself and other teammates.

Kneeing a defenseless Eskimo in the head was not the answer. That was a disgusting play and has no place in sports.

Honestly, by defending his actions you are lowering yourself to the level of intelligence and class of a Rider fan IMO.

valo403 · 08-19-2010, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

So what should Labinjo have done for the dirtball Eskimo tactics, in your opinion?

Are you honestly arguing that dropping knees into a guy on the ground was a good decision? Seriously?

Frank MetaMusil · 08-19-2010, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Well not holding a guy down and kneeing him in the face would be a start.

How about taking an appropriate response? Protect yourself and teammates, don't initiate anything. If protecting teammates means getting his hands dirty fine. Grab a guy, hold him down, push him away from teammate who is being attacked, whatever. Labinjo should have been trying to protect himself and other teammates.

Kneeing a defenseless Eskimo in the head was not the answer. That was a disgusting play and has no place in sports.

Honestly, by defending his actions you are lowering yourself to the level of intelligence and class of a Rider fan IMO.

You don't get my logic?

Labinjo didn't initiate anything. The Eskimo player wasn't defenseless, he started the scrum.

Cecil Terwilliger · 08-19-2010, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by moon

Wrong.

Because the truth of the matter is that Labinjo did not deserve to get suspended.

moon, give it up. Your ridiculous post condoning disgusting actions that we should never see in football as long as it is to a "rival" team shows you have no class.

I don't care what you think because you are obviously a classless fan. I'm ashamed you are part of the same fanbase as I am.

Why don't you try cheering for the Canucks? You can hail Bertuzzi as your hero because his actions were totally justified because you don't respect the opponent.

We are talking about sports here. Not warfare. Intentionally physically harming the opponent in a non-sports play is not cool. Kneeing a guy in the head is not part of the game.

valo403 · 08-19-2010, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

You don't get my logic?

Labinjo didn't initiate anything. The Eskimo player wasn't defenseless, he started the scrum.

He was lying on his back with nowhere to go, that's not defenseless how?

Look, I don't have a real problem with what Labinjo did, I'm a fan from back in his college days and I was also known as a failry dirty player in my day. But the fact is that wa sa dirty move, calling it anything else is either a case of homerism or mental defect.

Cecil Terwilliger · 08-19-2010, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

You don't get my logic?

Labinjo didn't initiate anything. The Eskimo player wasn't defenseless, he started the scrum.

It doesn't matter if the Edmonton guy initiated it. Labinjo didn't have to knee him in the head.

By your logic if a player makes an unnecessary rough play, the opposing team should be able to mercilessly tackle the guy and beat the living s*** out of him because the other guy started it.

That isn't how sports, or life, works. If the Edmonton guy tried to seriously hurt Labinjo then maybe, maybe Labinjo has the right to an appropriate response. But that isn't what happened. No one tried to knee Labinjo in the skull.

Cecil Terwilliger · 08-19-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by valo403

He was lying on his back with nowhere to go, that's not defenseless how?

Look, I don't have a real problem with what Labinjo did, I'm a fan from back in his college days and I was also known as a failry dirty player in my day. But the fact is that wa sa dirty move, calling it anything else is either a case of homerism or mental defect.

I also like Labinjo and I like guys that play on the edge. I am mad because Labinjo did 2 things I find stupid.

He made a move that has no place in football. If you're mad you save it for later in the game and hit a guy legally as part of a football play or save it for next week.

You don't hit a guy in a play that has no place in football or sports altogether, well maybe MMA.

Second thing that pisses me off is that Labinjo could've got suspended which hurts his whole team. Stamps need to keep winning because the Riders are right there on their tail. Labinjo helps the Stamps win. Him not there is a blow to the team. I don't tolerate selfish stupid players.

Frank MetaMusil · 08-19-2010, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

It doesn't matter if the Edmonton guy initiated it.

Yeah, I guess in the CFL they don't have an instigator penalty, so that makes it ok.

Cecil Terwilliger · 08-19-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

Yeah, I guess in the CFL they don't have an instigator penalty, so that makes it ok.

Fighting is not legal in the CFL.

Edmonton guy did not start a fist fight, he started an altercation. It was not a fist fight.

Even in the NHL you can't knee a guy in the head just because he starts a fight with you.

Even in the UFC you can't hold a guy down and drop knee bombs to his head for christs sake. And you think it is ok in a CFL game because the other guy started a shoving match with Labinjo? That's f***ing crazy dude.

valo403 · 08-19-2010, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

Yeah, I guess in the CFL they don't have an instigator penalty, so that makes it ok.

WTF does that have to do with anything?

I'd love to see an actual argument for how dropping knees to a guy on his back isn't a dirty play.

Just call it what it is, a dirty play. I don't care if you like it or hate it, but stop pretending it wasn't dirty.