1. People don't understand the Teebow over Claussen pick? Denver doesn't need an NFL ready QB right now, they like Kyle Orton. Josh McDaniels, the QB guru, now will have a QB to develop into his own savior. Will it work, who knows!
2. I LOVE that the Vikings moved out of that pick. Who they take tomorrow, I have no idea. Maybe Claussen if no one leap frogs them to STL's pick. Maybe the move back again, who knows?! I love that t hey are stock piling picks, even if it is just a 4th. I've been told that the Vikings don't like McCoy, which is unfortunate because I think he can be great.
3. That was the most unpredictable first round I think I've ever experienced as an NFL fan.
I've said it before and I'll say it again...I freaking LOVE the NFL Draft!!
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1. People don't understand the Teebow over Claussen pick? Denver doesn't need an NFL ready QB right now, they like Kyle Orton. Josh McDaniels, the QB guru, now will have a QB to develop into his own savior. Will it work, who knows!
2. I LOVE that the Vikings moved out of that pick. Who they take tomorrow, I have no idea. Maybe Claussen if no one leap frogs them to STL's pick. Maybe the move back again, who knows?! I love that t hey are stock piling picks, even if it is just a 4th. I've been told that the Vikings don't like McCoy, which is unfortunate because I think he can be great.
3. That was the most unpredictable first round I think I've ever experienced as an NFL fan.
I've said it before and I'll say it again...I freaking LOVE the NFL Draft!!
God I hope I don't have to hear more of this. Clausen is garbage. There's a reason he was passed over. At least Tebow has the chance to be a good player. His drive is unmatched, that cannot be denied. Clausen is the same dildo that showed up with bling and a limo at the hall of fame to say he was going to ND.
God I hope I don't have to hear more of this. Clausen is garbage. There's a reason he was passed over. At least Tebow has the chance to be a good player. His drive is unmatched, that cannot be denied. Clausen is the same dildo that showed up with bling and a limo at the hall of fame to say he was going to ND.
LOL @ him getting a black eye from his own fans too....
I think Tebow will do fine. He will win over your hearts I promise you that. Plus it shows that Denver is tired or prima donna players and trouble makers.
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Love the McClain pick, he is going to be a stud MLB for a long time
and either Charles Brown or Bruce Campbell should be there at 39 as well
It sucks Ro had to go to one of the biggest jokes of a franchise of all professional sports and a team I hate. I loved him at Bama. He'll help turn things around out there in Oakland. He will be a leader, a second DC on the field, and a guy that will give his 110% effort time he plays.
Christ, you're a Canucks fan AND a Raiders fan? Sweet jesus what is wrong with you?
and good pick for those dillholes. But until the zombie that is Al Davis dies your stupid football team is screwed.
will have to disagree there
every team goes through ups and downs, when they were very good with Gruden/Gannon from 99 to 2004 they were a very old team. The immediate future after that was always going to be a bit down.
They got unlucky with JaMarcus Russel, who many draft guys including Kiper had as the number 1 guy that year, tons of people thought he was gonna be good not just Al, for proof of that here is is, Kiper compares him to Elway, Steve Young and Mortenson also said he has "great touch"
If they had the #1 overall pick in a year where someone like Matt Ryan was available things would be a lot different right now.
And even though ESPN rips them to no end (They thought picking Asomugha late in the 1st round was a reach and a terrible pick) Davis has had some solid picks in the last few years, especially after the 1st round.
Guys like Zach Miller, Asomugha, Louis Murphy, Micheal Bush, Chaz Schilens, Thomas Howard etc.
Tons of teams miss in the 1st round, look at KC. Its not like Glenn Dorsey and Tyson Jackson are ripping it up and they were both top 5 picks the last few years. And there is talk by a lot of guys that they may take Clausen tomoro, effectively showing that the money they spent on Cassel was a huge mistake. But ESPN doesn't rip them like they do the Raiders.
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@ Diane_Phaneuf: Gotta disagree. Kiper is an idiot and has been an idiot for a long time. JaWalrus Russell was a product of one decent bowl game (pounding on sorry arse ND). And as far as "If they had the #1 overall pick in a year where someone like Matt Ryan was available things would be a lot different right now.", well, if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.
Darrius Heyward-Bey says hi. That franchise is a joke and will continue to be a joke until the cryptkeeper stops trying to play 70s AFL football and lets them build a real squad.
What is going on with Kirk Morrison? I have always viewed him as a really good linebacker, but from them drafting McClain what does this mean?
One of my friends is a Raiders fan and said that he is brutal, he makes a lot of tackles but he said that's basically all he does, is this true?
ya his stats look great but he isn't an inside LB, and he doesn't want to play OLB when the Raiders kinda suggested it to him last year at camp.
He can't stop the run, which is kinda the whole job of a MLB.
I think they probly trade him tomoro
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@ Diane_Phaneuf: Gotta disagree. Kiper is an idiot and has been an idiot for a long time. JaWalrus Russell was a product of one decent bowl game (pounding on sorry arse ND). And as far as "If they had the #1 overall pick in a year where someone like Matt Ryan was available things would be a lot different right now.", well, if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.
Darrius Heyward-Bey says hi. That franchise is a joke and will continue to be a joke until the cryptkeeper stops trying to play 70s AFL football and lets them build a real squad.
Most NFL people agree that most WR's take a few years to reach their potential in the NFL, and most don't also have a terrible QB throwing them the ball in their Rookie year.
I think DHB can be a solid stretch the field receiver, he won't be Crabtree but the Raiders didn't want Crabtree because they think they have a possession guy in Schilens. Who broke his foot last year in camp last year.
and the thing about Matt Ryan/JaMarcus in different years, thats my entire point. The draft is a crapshoot, one year someone gets the 1st overall pick and its Peyton Manning, the next year its Tim Couch. Both are universally agreed upon as the 1st pick in their year. Thats the crapshoot.
I am not saying they have been the best run franchise in the NFL the last 6 years, but they haven't been the worst. Bill Bellicheck even said last year that he thought Al Davis was one of the best football minds in the league.
They are just trendy to bash for ESPN because Davis calls half of their reporters liars and rumor mongers
Probably because no one really cares about the Chiefs, and they don't have the image the Raiders do.
You can't judge defensive lineman in their first year too well so you're jumping the gun on Jackson. Dorsey did show progress considering he aslo had to learn an entirely new scheme last year. I don't think either will ever be pro bowl guys but I think they can be key pieces of the D-Line for 8-10 years.
Cassel...he cost 31 million in guaranteed money for a team who had no QB and he was 10 times better than Jamarcus last year. Put Cassel on the Raiders and they probably win 9 games. After next year the Chiefs are more or less clear of their financial obligation to Cassel. Realistically any rookie like Stafford or Sanchez would have sucked on their team last year and wouldn't fare any better this coming season. If Cassel is in fact a decent QB than the Chiefs will be in good shape once a cap is put back into place with that contract due to the accelerated bonuses in that contract already having been paid out.
The Chiefs 2008 draft actually doesn't look that bad to me, as after Dorsey they got Albert at 15 who is a starting Left Tackle although some feel he should be a guard. Either way a starting OL at that spot is a decent pick. Brandon Flowers at 35 is a really good corner, and Jamaal Charles ran for 1100 yards last year.
When a team is bad and picks in the top 10 though it can be a curse. The player picked 5th isn't necessarily any better than a guy picked 15th, but has to play on a worse team and takes up more money. It's a tough cycle to break, as Cleveland, KC, Detroit, St.Louis, and Oakland have all been there a lot recently. Hence why the NFL really needs to put a limit on rookie contracts.
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thats exactly what I am saying though, the Raiders and Chiefs are pretty much in the same boat for the past few years. But you only hear stuff about Davis being senile
I actually think today went well for Oakland and KC, San Diego gave up way too much to move up and get Matthews. And mini-bellicheck seems to be over his head with no direction.
The Raiders do look to be a bit different this offseason though. First many speculated that Cable would be fired. I don't know how many reports of that I read. But he's still there. It does appear that they're willing to move on from JaMarcus Russel as their starter, or at least go with an open competition in camp. Than rather than pick a guy who's an athlete, they go and get a guy who is a good leader and more of a football player than a combine freak. They have talent on that roster, if they stop doing the dumb things which so far this offseason they have. They'll win a few games this coming year.
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After failing to trade with the Miami Dolphins at the No. 12 pick, Eagles head coach Andy Reid was concerned that the division rival New York Giants would select Philadelphia's first choice, defensive end Brandon Graham of Michigan with the 15th pick.
"We wanted to keep our two second round picks," said Reid. The Dolphins had been asking for the Eagles 37th pick -- the so-called Donovan Pick -- which the Eagles got from the Redskins for Donovan McNabb. But the Eagles refused to part with that pick. When San Diego jumped up to Miami's slot and took a running back, Reid knew he had to make a move soon or lose out to Tom Coughlin and the Giants.
Makes me feel a lot better now.
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The Lions trading up to get Best was dumb. The Vikings, Colts and Saints were no threat to take a running back and I have a hard time believing the Rams would have taken him to start the second given all their holes on D. I thought they were moving up to take Charles Brown before someone like the Colts or Saints potentially could. Just a weird move to me.
As for the Texans, I'm a disappointed they didn't move down if Jackson was their guy. Perhaps no one was looking to jump into their spot but it just seemed a little early to me. With that said, I'm excited to see what Kareem can do in the NFL, doesn't look like he'll be much of a playmaker but I'd be content with a guy who can provide steady coverage, sure tackling and good leadership in the secondary. I was shocked when they left Kyle Wilson on the board though.
Like most have said, I'm probably more interested to see how tomorrow plays out then anything.
Dont really understand the pats pick of Mcourty apparently the saints jets and vikings were hot after him so that makes me feel good. Just doesnt seem a dire need after resigning bodden and drafting butler last year
My guess is Bill wanted a CB and had a better chance of drafting a good one at 27 with plenty of quality players available in the second
Dont really understand the pats pick of Mcourty apparently the saints jets and vikings were hot after him so that makes me feel good. Just doesnt seem a dire need after resigning bodden and drafting butler last year
My guess is Bill wanted a CB and had a better chance of drafting a good one at 27 with plenty of quality players available in the second
I thought for sure they were going to take Dez Bryant as he was falling towards them
