10-22-2011, 09:43 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
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Yeah Samsung is the only major one that I can think of that hasn't had an issue (or an issue that got significant coverage), and the nice thing about Macs is the platform is pretty limited so you don't have to validate against much hardware wise.
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10-22-2011, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by photon
Yeah Samsung is the only major one that I can think of that hasn't had an issue (or an issue that got significant coverage), and the nice thing about Macs is the platform is pretty limited so you don't have to validate against much hardware wise.
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Yeah, for sure they have it easier validating certain drives, and undoubtedly have some influence on the firmware for the drives they OEM. I think Mac users run into odd issues on occasion using third party SSD's or even non-bog-standard SATA drives. The Seagate hybrid drives had issues with wake/sleep, for example.
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10-22-2011, 11:19 PM
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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Many of the problems on the PC side are due to subtle variations in hardware, controllers, firmware, drivers, or the general design of how Windows 7 handles SSDs etc. Many of the significant problems for Crucial, etc. were dealt with by registry edits to disable LPM caused by the Intel Rapid Storage Manager.
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10-22-2011, 11:58 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
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Yeah for the Sandforce problem I'd read someone figured out how to change the power savings settings with an Asus app for their motherboards such that it prevented the motherboard from sending the offending command to the Sandforce drive; it wasn't a regular sleep command or something but some kind of halfway power signal to the drive or something.
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10-23-2011, 12:07 AM
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Atomic Nerd
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I had this netbook that refused to install Windows 7 onto an SSD. It would just freeze everytime. Eventually, I discovered that the particular HDD controller on there does not get recognized by Windows 7 properly when you use an SSD with it and whenever Windows 7 tries to send a TRIM command to the SSD, even during installation, the entire system would freeze.
I ended up having to install Vista (which does not enable TRIM by default like Win7 does) and then upgrade to Win7 from inside Vista. During the upgrade process, the computer reboots 3 times automatically as part of the process. I had to interrupt the system every time it rebooted and force it to boot into BART PE, hijack and extract the registry hives, and edit them to disable TRIM while in the middle of installing Windows 7.
SSDs are still a bit of a headache in their infancy. It'll get better with more and more industry wide adoption.
Last edited by Hack&Lube; 10-23-2011 at 12:11 AM.
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10-23-2011, 05:47 PM
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Scoring Winger
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I'm having problems with my SSD and the HDD controller too. I tried to upgrade to the latest and greatest, it fails to install the driver.
Edit: worth mentioning my PC gets frozen while playing video games.
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11-26-2011, 05:46 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
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Intel aren't the fastest but are reliable.
Without TRIM support though I wouldn't go with an Intel drive as their built in GC isn't very good.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4244/i...-320-review/11
And as far as I know the newest versions of OSX support TRIM but only on drives purchased from Apple. I think you can manually hack OSX to enable trim on non-Apple provided drives, but not positive.
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11-26-2011, 05:54 PM
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Just bought a Crucial M4 128gb. Reboot is about 15-20 seconds till Windows is loaded. BF3 level changes take about 10 seconds (after 30 second end of round wait time).
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11-26-2011, 07:25 PM
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Atomic Nerd
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Location: Calgary
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I bought this drive with BF3 @ MemEx for $129 after rebate. Just installed it into FlameOn's system with Windows 7 Ultimate and boot times are about 10-15 seconds.
It's only SATA II (3gbps) instead of SATA III (6gbps) but honestly, in real world usage you would hardly notice.
I think it's a great drive since it's at the $1/GB or under level and Intel is great for reliability. It's not going to be the fastest SSD by any margin but it is still so fast after coming from mechanical drives that you will be blown away.
I also have a 128GB Crucial C300 (same as M4 but faster in random reads/writes but slower in some other areas) and a 64MB Kingston V100 and I don't think I would notice a difference.
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12-23-2011, 11:32 AM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
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12-23-2011, 11:37 AM
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Every time you bump this thread Photon, I feel a little bit of nerd-rage that I have yet to upgrade to a SSD. It normally takes me 5-10 mins to convince myself I should wait to buy a new drive until I can afford it.
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12-23-2011, 11:42 AM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
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12-23-2011, 11:47 AM
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It normally takes me 5-10 mins to convince myself I should wait to buy a new drive until I can afford it.
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Clearly that's mechanical impulse control - SSD impulse control would take about 10 seconds to make the decision.
You should seriously consider just throwing it on a credit card. SSD is the one time when fiscal irresponsibility is probably OK. Nobody regrets SSD.
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12-23-2011, 04:43 PM
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Atomic Nerd
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Quote:
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Every time you bump this thread Photon, I feel a little bit of nerd-rage that I have yet to upgrade to a SSD. It normally takes me 5-10 mins to convince myself I should wait to buy a new drive until I can afford it.
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Think about all the time you will save waiting for your computer to boot up, waiting for applications to load, etc.
It drives me absolutely bats*** crazy waiting for things to happen on my other desktop with a mechanical drive now that I want to smash things while I'm waiting for it to start up or for applications to load. I'm so used to instantaneous computing.
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12-23-2011, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
Think about all the time you will save waiting for your computer to boot up, waiting for applications to load, etc.
It drives me absolutely bats*** crazy waiting for things to happen on my other desktop with a mechanical drive now that I want to smash things while I'm waiting for it to start up or for applications to load. I'm so used to instantaneous computing.
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Yeah, I reboot my computer about once a month and most of the time patch Tuesday takes care of that for me. I do see a lot of benefit though and once my tuition for my final semester of school is paid, I am looking at building a whole new rig, including a ssd.
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01-04-2012, 06:11 PM
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I bought a cheap Intel 80 gig SSD during boxing day and finally got around to installing it. Wow. This thing is ridiculous. It restarts my computer in the time it takes me to open my email. Simply amazing. And this isn't even a fast one too.
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01-04-2012, 06:51 PM
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I'm still waiting for Rath to get an SSD so I can see his reaction. 15 pages in he's still resisting, but I know he'll cave eventually.
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01-04-2012, 08:59 PM
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I never thought it would make a difference, but man... it's crazy. I'm just restarting my computer whenever I have updates because it reboots seriously that fast. I wish I could show you. It takes the same time to get my computer out of sleep as restarting. I'm buying SSD for everything now even if it is smaller in size and more expensive.
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01-05-2012, 09:58 AM
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I never thought it would make a difference, but man... it's crazy. I'm just restarting my computer whenever I have updates because it reboots seriously that fast. I wish I could show you. It takes the same time to get my computer out of sleep as restarting. I'm buying SSD for everything now even if it is smaller in size and more expensive.
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I don't have to reboot very often, but its the subtle things that I adore. The lack of noise and vibration, however slight, in a laptop, plus lower heat, is so nice. The machine is silent. I can pick it up and move it without fear of bumping it with the drive spinning. Not worrying or thinking about fragmentation.
I've been using my SSD since October of 2008, so it will be interesting to see how reliability holds up in the next couple of years. There's a good chance I'll hang on to my current laptop for another year or two, which would have me pushing 5 years on the drive.
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