Fighting in Gaza Strip

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by bcb

If the media were in Gaza as opposed to being safely clustered on the Israeli side of the border, do you really think their reporting would be more unbiased?

Who's talking about bias? I'm talking about the more credible mainstream media such as the BBC or even CNN. I'm saying there would be more firsthand accurate reporting where claims could be verified or dismissed as false. This in turn leads to less unconfirmed claims and speculative reporting.

Originally Posted by bcb

Seems to me that the Palestinian sources are taken for truth, and the Israeli's are never asked. The IDF has spokespeople who would be happy to give figures to the Western media.

That's your opinion and we'll just have to agree to disagree on that. Figures? We can dispute figures and claims till the cows come home and still be nowhere nearer the truth. For the record I have no reason to believe either side.

Fact of the matter is there would be a lot less room for dispute and speculation if Israel had been more transparent towards the international media in the first place. e.g. Nage Waza's insinuation that there was someone firing a rocket from the school could very easily be applied to every civilian bombing or shooting as justification such as was done here where there were media present and fired on (from the earlier link in my last post).


The Army in a statement said that it only targets buildings or locations "from which fire on (Israeli) troops or civilians emanates," saying the Hamas terrorist organization that the 20-day old offensive is targeting "deliberately and cynically operates from within civilian areas."
Both The Associated Press and Reuters had provided the military with the coordinates and address of the office.
"The military knows what it is, and where it is, and have assured us it is not a target," said Julian Rake, Reuters deputy bureau chief in Jerusalem.
But Rake said his staffers and other journalists in the building were certain that "at no stage" did militants fire from inside the building.


As I said before, lack of transparency in anything in everyday life invokes suspicion.

[LChoy]

The way the resistance has worked, it is almost impossible for the Hamas leadership to hold back their forces compared to the Israelis forces. Ceasefire usually breaks because a group of indivuals from the Palestinian see an opportunity and take it. Compared to an organized military of Israel, there is a much less chance of any army unit acting on its own. Not that I'm supportive Hamas that is.

[bcb]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

That sounds a decent start to a Good Old Fashioned Conspiracy Theory.

Talk about a rock and a hard place.

Some ######s believe The Jews control the "left-wing media". Then there are other people who believe the "left-wing media" is siding with the Palestinians and only telling one side of the story.

It's not a conspiracy theory, when you have a protest that brings together neo-nazis and Hamas supporters, both waving Hezbollah flags and swastikas, Being Anti-Israel is then just an excuse to hate Jews.

[HelloHockeyFans]

Rockets fired into Israel... again.

This time, ten.

JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel threatened "harsh and disproportionate" retaliation after Gaza militants fired at least 10 rockets and mortar shells across the border Sunday and warplanes later bombed the area where Hamas smuggles in weapons from Egypt through tunnels.

"If there is shooting at residents of the south, there will be an Israeli response that will be harsh and disproportionate by its nature," Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told his Cabinet.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...PRq3gD96344DO0

[CaptainCrunch]

They just can't help themselves, but what do you expect of a death cult with a martyr complex.

This only ends if Hamas' political and military base is destroyed.

[Azure]

How long till Israel can respond?

1, 10, 100 people killed?