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Old 05-13-2008, 06:50 PM   #281
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x mormon here!

You wanna talk about door to door......selling religion on a street corner......then start talking about a real problem in the world ....JW'S nuff said.
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Old 05-13-2008, 07:25 PM   #282
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I just figured that was common knowledge.
Well, some people don't even know who the founder of Mormonism is (as evidenced earlier in this thread), so I don't think it is fair to assume that is simply common knowledge.
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Old 05-13-2008, 07:36 PM   #283
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I think this thread could hit 500 posts.

Is their a main council or 'board of directors' that are in charge of modifying 'the rules' i.e. caffine, longjohns, and the like?
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Old 05-13-2008, 09:01 PM   #284
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Well correct me if I am wrong, but members of the mormon church were once not allowed to drink Cola because of the caffiene content. Well now that the church owns a massive share of Coca Cola (or is it Pepsi?), their policy has changed to allow it. A few of them at my work drink Cola no problem.
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Old 05-13-2008, 09:05 PM   #285
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Well correct me if I am wrong, but members of the mormon church were once not allowed to drink Cola because of the caffiene content. Well now that the church owns a massive share of Coca Cola (or is it Pepsi?), their policy has changed to allow it. A few of them at my work drink Cola no problem.
Did you even read the posts above how that's completely false?
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Old 05-13-2008, 09:18 PM   #286
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Let me quote from the article.
"The remaining 76% of the company is owned by various and sundry institutional and individual investors, some of whom may indeed be Mormon"...........It also says that 1% of Coca Cola equates to about 1.375 billion. That to me would be "massive" financial interest, even if it was only 1%.
Then it goes on to say that mormons have been allowed to drink Cola (and other soft drinks) all along. They could have fooled me. I'm down here in the Lethbridge area, where there are plenty mormons that have told me in the past "no thanks, I can't drink that" when I offer a Coke.
At the bottom of the article it lists a few of the "frowned upon" substances like coffee, tea, tobacco, alcohol etc. So what is it in coffee that makes it forbidden? Could it be the caffiene content? I didn't think a harmless coffee bean could be so bad. I smell a rat here.
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Old 05-13-2008, 09:54 PM   #287
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Let me quote from the article.
"The remaining 76% of the company is owned by various and sundry institutional and individual investors, some of whom may indeed be Mormon"...........It also says that 1% of Coca Cola equates to about 1.375 billion. That to me would be "massive" financial interest, even if it was only 1%.
So a bunch of individual unrelated mormons in unrelated stock investments may or may not own a unknown portion of Coke, therefore they are the biggest hypocrites on the planet???

Lol.. you win the gold in the twist facts event for the rationalization gymnastics.

If you're gonna make up things, at least make up a big number like 25%.

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Then it goes on to say that mormons have been allowed to drink Cola (and other soft drinks) all along. They could have fooled me. I'm down here in the Lethbridge area, where there are plenty mormons that have told me in the past "no thanks, I can't drink that" when I offer a Coke.
So? Thats they way their group or themselves individually chooses to interpret things. Either that or it's a grand conspiracy targeted at you to fool you into thinking they own a large portion of Coke.

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At the bottom of the article it lists a few of the "frowned upon" substances like coffee, tea, tobacco, alcohol etc. So what is it in coffee that makes it forbidden? Could it be the caffiene content? I didn't think a harmless coffee bean could be so bad. I smell a rat here.
No those aren't frowned upon, they're against church doctrine. Coffee is a hot drink.
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Let me quote from the article.
"The remaining 76% of the company is owned by various and sundry institutional and individual investors, some of whom may indeed be Mormon"...........It also says that 1% of Coca Cola equates to about 1.375 billion. That to me would be "massive" financial interest, even if it was only 1%.
Then it goes on to say that mormons have been allowed to drink Cola (and other soft drinks) all along. They could have fooled me. I'm down here in the Lethbridge area, where there are plenty mormons that have told me in the past "no thanks, I can't drink that" when I offer a Coke.
At the bottom of the article it lists a few of the "frowned upon" substances like coffee, tea, tobacco, alcohol etc. So what is it in coffee that makes it forbidden? Could it be the caffiene content? I didn't think a harmless coffee bean could be so bad. I smell a rat here.
When did "may indeed" become evidence for anything? If you are quoting an article, why not provide a link to it?

If you read my prior posts, you'll see that some members drink coke and others don't. As far as I can tell it has only been suggested that we should avoid it, but it is not a commandment or anything. The fact that you know a mormon who drank coke... proves nothing. I'm sure someone could also find a mormon who has killed someone or done some other horrible act. Does that mean we preach that killing is good? Mormons aren't perfect. Does that make them hypocrites? Only if they claim they are incapable of ever making a mistake. I doubt anyone will ever openly make that claim.

There are valid reasons to not like Mormonism, concerns over pepsi and coke?... well sorry... keep trying.
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Old 05-13-2008, 10:18 PM   #289
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When did "may indeed" become evidence for anything?
When fundamentalists use it for proof of existence of a higher power.
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I think this thread could hit 500 posts.

Is their a main council or 'board of directors' that are in charge of modifying 'the rules' i.e. caffine, longjohns, and the like?
The Church is structured like the church was when Christ was alive. Christ is at the head of the Church and the Prophet is his representitive on Earth then the 12 Apostles, the Seventy etc etc. If something affects the whole Church, then the Prophet makes the call. If something only affects one Area, then the Seventy in charge of that Area is in charge of it. If something affects only 1 ward, then the Bishop of that ward is responsible. If it is something that affects only one family, then the father is responsible.

Everyone is responsible to all those above him, and as a result they are guided in their descions by the rules that have been set up and the spirit of inspiration that guides them to help those they are responsible for.

I hope this makes sense. In an effort to make this post as concise as possible, I am assuming alot of the terminiology does not need to be explained. If any of it is confusing, I would be happy to clarify.
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Old 05-14-2008, 07:33 AM   #291
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After reading the Jedi Council religion thread I'm wondering if Darth may attack the Mormon's some day if they keep knocking on his door.
Jedi Council religion seems more real then the Mormon Religion.
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Old 05-14-2008, 08:12 AM   #292
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I experienced something similar. One of the big reasons I don't want anything to do with the church. Sometimes, when a member like that is in need, they are shunned. I believe a church should be helping someone in that situation.
Yeah my mother’s closest friends totally abandoned her when she need them the most, even her family would speak to her for years after my parents divorce

Even though I was eight at the time it didn’t take much for me to realize how ridiculous this treatment was

Ever since then I have had nothing to do with the church and I can honestly say I am better for it
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Old 05-14-2008, 08:23 AM   #293
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Well correct me if I am wrong, but members of the mormon church were once not allowed to drink Cola because of the caffiene content. Well now that the church owns a massive share of Coca Cola (or is it Pepsi?), their policy has changed to allow it. A few of them at my work drink Cola no problem.
See photon’s and eddly’s above posts

This Coke thing is false
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Old 05-14-2008, 08:37 AM   #294
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When fundamentalists use it for proof of existence of a higher power.
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