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View Poll Results: Which party did you vote for?
Progressive Conservative Association of Alberta 67 29.52%
Alberta Liberal Party 69 30.40%
Alberta New Democratic Party 8 3.52%
Alberta Greens / Green Party of Alberta 18 7.93%
Wildrose Alliance Party of Alberta 38 16.74%
Alberta Social Credit Party 3 1.32%
Communist Party - Alberta 9 3.96%
The Alberta Party 0 0%
Separation Party of Alberta 9 3.96%
Independent 6 2.64%
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:28 PM   #281
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They shouldn't merge. The liberals should rebrand themselves, work their way closer to the center of the spectrum and get a leader that has a corporate background ... people with a corporate background tend to have a good grasp on practicality, which would give them some credibility.

JIM DINNING! Seriously, I really like that guy, he would move the Libs closer to the centre but it would have to be a rebranding of the Libs, which wouldn't be such a bad idea.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:28 PM   #282
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The word "Lib" carries a very negative connotation. It is no different than when the Calgary Sun repeatedly refers to the federal Liberals as the "Grits" in their editorials. Very irresponsible in my opinion.
you should read a history book. The Liberals evolved from a party called the Clear Grits, thus their nickname. It is not derogatory, it is historical
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:29 PM   #283
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On a completely unrelated note, I'm listening to QR77 online and they have this Dave Rutherford idiot on, and he keeps calling the Liberals the "Libs". Is it so hard to finish your words? Very annoying.
Dave Rutherford is actually one of the smartest people on the radio.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:29 PM   #284
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Lethbridge looks like cold war Germany - they are going to have to erect a wall to keep the reds out of blue territory.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:30 PM   #285
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JIM DINNING! Seriously, I really like that guy, he would move the Libs closer to the centre but it would have to be a rebranding of the Libs, which wouldn't be such a bad idea.
I wanted Dinning to win the PC leadership.. I was pretty sad when he didnt win and we ending up with Ed..
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:30 PM   #286
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Well there you go. I guess Alberta just wants the same old. Really, I am flabergasted that not only did the PC's not lose seats they actually gain A LOT.

Good God.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:30 PM   #287
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JIM DINNING! Seriously, I really like that guy, he would move the Libs closer to the centre but it would have to be a rebranding of the Libs, which wouldn't be such a bad idea.
I didn't like the guy at the time... he felt like the establishment/entitlement candidate, but that clearly was Stelmach in the end.

Now I'd happily vote for him. He should take the leadership of the Liberals.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:30 PM   #288
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That guy was a friggin jackass.. Heck a bigger jackass than I've been tonight.. He sewered Alberta and gave rise to western alienation.. Last year he was voted the worst Canadian of all time.
Actually... OPEC... nevermind.

Go do some historical research into where "Western Alienation" actually comes from.

Yeah, Trudeau screwed up in his attempt to handle the Eastern energy crisis. But to declare him the "worst Canadian of all time" reeks of ignorance.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:30 PM   #289
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I don't mean to split hairs but you have misunderstood what I meant about post secondary education. I consider trade school post secondary education, not just university, as it is typically done AFTER people leave high school. I mentioned nothing about Sociology and Psychology school, in fact you will see nothing in my post about university at all.
ok fair enough and that's not splitting hairs, I generally see trade school and post secondary as mutually exclusive ... if you see them as the same then fine. relative to the cost it is still inexpensive so I still think your arguement is completely incorrect.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:30 PM   #290
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They shouldn't merge. The liberals should rebrand themselves, work their way closer to the center of the spectrum and get a leader that has a corporate background ... people with a corporate background tend to have a good grasp on practicality, which would give them some credibility.

I don't really want a left leader, but I wish they would put up a decent fight and be a competant opposition party that can push the PC's better.
The thing is, I'm not sure that people would support a Liberal party with a new name. At least with a merger you are looking at what is clearly a new entity, while eliminating vote splitting on the left.

Quite frankly, the only hope the Liberals have of ever making inroads is for the Alliance or another right wing party to split the conservative base. There just aren't enough liberals to form a left wing government with only one viable right wing party. There hasn't been in decades.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:31 PM   #291
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Funny to me all this talk about Taft's personality. I didn't vote Liberals, and if you like the PC policy fair enough. But anyone voting on the leaders personality and then votes Stelmach is completely out to lunch. There are blind sea invertebrates that have more character and back bone the Steady Eddy.
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JIM DINNING! Seriously, I really like that guy, he would move the Libs closer to the centre but it would have to be a rebranding of the Libs, which wouldn't be such a bad idea.
Except he's never going to run for the Liberals.

He's a diehard conservative.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:32 PM   #293
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Actually... OPEC... nevermind.

Go do some historical research into where "Western Alienation" actually comes from.

Yeah, Trudeau screwed up in his attempt to handle the Eastern energy crisis. But to declare him the "worst Canadian of all time" reeks of ignorance.
Why? Do you know of anyone else who discriminatorly economically crippled one portion of the country simply for the benefit of another portion of the country? Then flipped off the crippled part of the country when asked about it?
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:32 PM   #294
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Lethbridge looks like cold war Germany - they are going to have to erect a wall to keep the reds out of blue territory.
All the Mormans live on the west side. That's why there is such a huge difference. If you've never been to Lethbridge, there's a huge canyon right between the west and east sides of the town, connected by a few roads and one big ass train bridge. West side - Morman, conservative Christian vote; East side - more metropolitan, left leaning people. Downtown is on the East side.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:32 PM   #295
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PCs have 54% of the popular vote (but will win most of the seats). Libs 24%.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:32 PM   #296
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Actually... OPEC... nevermind.

Go do some historical research into where "Western Alienation" actually comes from.

Yeah, Trudeau screwed up in his attempt to handle the Eastern energy crisis. But to declare him the "worst Canadian of all time" reeks of ignorance.
Actually, it reeks of regional bias. To dismiss one's opinion because you disagree with it reeks of arrogance.

I'd agree with Trudeau being held as one of the worst Canadians of all time. His federalist zealotry did a lot of damage to this nation.

Good news for the WAP - Hinman has made a comeback, and is in the lead in his riding.
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:33 PM   #297
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I can't believe Hinman is TRAILING. I thought he was going to make a splash today. Instead he might lose his seat.
He's up by 100 votes!
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Old 03-03-2008, 09:33 PM   #298
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Actually... OPEC... nevermind.

Go do some historical research into where "Western Alienation" actually comes from.

Yeah, Trudeau screwed up in his attempt to handle the Eastern energy crisis. But to declare him the "worst Canadian of all time" reeks of ignorance.
I'd like to clarify.

He might not be the worst Canadian of all time, I like to reserve that for serial killers.

But Trudeau in terms of national leadership was the worst, and most arrogant twit of all time.

He's a scar on Canada's history.
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All the Mormans live on the west side. That's why there is such a huge difference. If you've never been to Lethbridge, there's a huge canyon right between the west and east sides of the town, connected by a few roads and one big ass train bridge. West side - Morman, conservative Christian vote; East side - more metropolitan, left leaning people. Downtown is on the East side.
West Lethbridge has the university as well though, and you'd expect students to generally lean left. The Liberals were desperately hoping to carry that riding.
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Funny to me all this talk about Taft's personality. I didn't vote Liberals, and if you like the PC policy fair enough. But anyone voting on the leaders personality and then votes Stelmach is completely out to lunch. There are blind sea invertebrates that have more character and back bone the Steady Eddy.
It's unfortunate, but it's human nature to view charisma as a critical part of leadership, be it politics or anything else.
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