[GT] Devils vs. Flames 11/01/2024

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Psytic

I like hockey being physical. You can always watch soccer just saying. Don't ruin our sport. The players know what they are signing up for when they get their millions. Its the cost of doing business like any sport. You know what you're getting into.

Woof. At least you didn't tell me to go watch figure skating.
Why should I stop watching the sport I love because it refuses to eliminate something that is causing a subset of players to die young.

I love hockey
I hate fighting

Why can't you go and watch MMA to get your blood lust fulfiled?

[dino7c]

Awesime win...good thing they didnt bench Mantha and Huberdeau...derp

[Yobbo]

In hockey, fighting has always been a debated aspect of the sport. Some argue it has no place on the ice, while others (myself included) believe it serves a specific purpose. Here’s why fighting is more than just a display of aggression—it's a tradition with benefits for the game.

1. Policing the Game: Hockey is intense, and emotions can run high. Fighting allows players to hold each other accountable, discouraging cheap shots and other dangerous play. When players know they could be held to account, it keeps the game cleaner and safer overall.


2. Team Bonding and Morale: A player stepping up to fight often does so to stand up for a teammate. This kind of loyalty and bravery can boost team morale. It demonstrates that they’re willing to go the extra mile for each other, building camaraderie and unity.


3. Excitement for Fans: For many fans, fights bring an extra layer of excitement to the game. They’re thrilling, spontaneous moments that can energize the crowd and add to the sport’s unique character. While no one wants violence for its own sake, a well-timed fight can be a memorable and exciting part of the hockey experience.


4. Cultural Tradition: Fighting has been part of hockey for over a century. While some aspects of the game evolve, this tradition remains one that fans and players alike respect. It’s part of hockey's culture and history and has helped make the game what it is today.


5. Emotional Release: When tension builds during a fast-paced game, fighting can serve as an outlet, defusing situations before they escalate further. Rather than letting resentment simmer, fighting can sometimes allow both teams to reset and refocus.



While fighting might seem like an outdated or overly aggressive aspect of hockey to some, it has its own set of rules and purposes that contribute to the overall dynamic of the sport. For those who love the game, it’s clear that fighting isn’t just about aggression—it’s about accountability, camaraderie, and passion for the sport.

[Junglist]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

And that's why it needs to be banned.

Keeping fighting your battle.

[Junglist]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Woof. At least you didn't tell me to go watch figure skating.
Why should I stop watching the sport I love because it refuses to eliminate something that is causing a subset of players to die young.

I love hockey
I hate fighting

Why can't you go and watch MMA to get your blood lust fulfiled?

Why can’t you realize the majority of hockey fans want fighting in the game?

[3rd liner]

Watching the PVR to see the goals I missed and during a break in play camera cut to the crowd- some tool is wearing an oilers jersey. F'ing loser. He doesn't look very smart, so definitely an edmonton fan.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

Yes, it's an ejection in almost every other pro sport. Not good for the head.

Aparrently running your mouth and getting the first 3 shots on Lomberg isn't either....

Bastion had thrown 3 shots already before Lomberg started


The cherry picked clip of him not having his gloves off yet shows his right glove being tossed but Bastion is left handed and his gloves is off and his hand is hidden but Lombergs body.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Yobbo

In hockey, fighting has always been a debated aspect of the sport. Some argue it has no place on the ice, while others (myself included) believe it serves a specific purpose. Here’s why fighting is more than just a display of aggression—it's a tradition with benefits for the game.

1. Policing the Game: Hockey is intense, and emotions can run high. Fighting allows players to hold each other accountable, discouraging cheap shots and other dangerous play. When players know they could be held to account, it keeps the game cleaner and safer overall.

Prove it is effective at doing this. what data shows that fighting deters other bad behaviors.

Originally Posted by Yobbo

2. Team Bonding and Morale: A player stepping up to fight often does so to stand up for a teammate. This kind of loyalty and bravery can boost team morale. It demonstrates that they’re willing to go the extra mile for each other, building camaraderie and unity.

Why don't other sports need this for team bonding?

Originally Posted by Yobbo

3. Excitement for Fans: For many fans, fights bring an extra layer of excitement to the game. They’re thrilling, spontaneous moments that can energize the crowd and add to the sport’s unique character. While no one wants violence for its own sake, a well-timed fight can be a memorable and exciting part of the hockey experience.

I too enjoy a kid getting his jaw broke. Fun!

Originally Posted by Yobbo

4. Cultural Tradition: Fighting has been part of hockey for over a century. While some aspects of the game evolve, this tradition remains one that fans and players alike respect. It’s part of hockey's culture and history and has helped make the game what it is today.

Sports is full of horrible traditions. History will show this is another one of those.

Originally Posted by Yobbo

5. Emotional Release: When tension builds during a fast-paced game, fighting can serve as an outlet, defusing situations before they escalate further. Rather than letting resentment simmer, fighting can sometimes allow both teams to reset and refocus.



While fighting might seem like an outdated or overly aggressive aspect of hockey to some, it has its own set of rules and purposes that contribute to the overall dynamic of the sport. For those who love the game, it’s clear that fighting isn’t just about aggression—it’s about accountability, camaraderie, and passion for the sport.

There are many of us that love hockey and hate fighting.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Junglist

Why can’t you realize the majority of hockey fans want fighting in the game?

Because I don't care.
I also think that is shifting. More fans are realizing the long-term consequences of head trama and seeing former players drop dead or kill themselves ain't worth it.

But I really don't care if fans want it. It's wrong.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dammage79

We've had the debate, respectfully. You're just on the wrong side of the coin on this one, still. I understand your POV. But fighting isn't going anywhere.

It's been going away gradually for years.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dammage79

You think headshots are gone? Theyre heavily penalized now, but fighting has always been heavily penalized. That's why fighting isn't going anywhere. It's been "caged" for 70 years.

Scott Stevens couldn’t play into today’s league. They obviously cannot get rid of every headshot but the days of head hunting are absolutely gone.

[Inferno]

Bastian went after Lomberg which is where the instigator comes from. Both guys were going at it and Lomberg just got the better of Bastian. It doesn't matter if he got his gloves off quicker.

And unless he drops him he's not going to stop throwing shots either. Any player in a fight is going to keep throwing shots until it gets broken up if the other guy is still standing.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1852556322132173232

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Junglist

Keeping fighting your battle.

You know who can't fight that battle.
These guys:
Steve Montador
Derek Boogard
Rick Rypien
Bob Probert
Chris Simon
Wade Belak

All dead. All enforcers.

Here's more info on that study I mentioned. How someone can read this and not think that fighting should be banned boggles my mind.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2804675

[ComixZone]

Hopefully this brings about the beginning of the end to fighting in hockey:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1852540547132539292

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Woof. At least you didn't tell me to go watch figure skating.
Why should I stop watching the sport I love because it refuses to eliminate something that is causing a subset of players to die young.

I love hockey
I hate fighting

Why can't you go and watch MMA to get your blood lust fulfiled?

Mma sucks . No different than dog fighting. Seeing a man defend himself spontaneously sure. Fight for a cause and reason not just for the fun of it.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Mma sucks . No different than dog fighting. Seeing a man defend himself spontaneously sure. Fight for a cause and reason not just for the fun of it.

What cause and reason justifies it within the confines of sport?

You know what makes teams good? Having the best coached group of highly skilled players.

Not some voodoo garbage set of intangibles that are brought about by inflicting brain damage on an opponent.

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Woof. At least you didn't tell me to go watch figure skating.
Why should I stop watching the sport I love because it refuses to eliminate something that is causing a subset of players to die young.

I love hockey
I hate fighting

Why can't you go and watch MMA to get your blood lust fulfiled?

If you love it as much as you claim then why complain about it. Physicality has been a part of the sport since its been a sport... If that doesn't work for you and you don't really love it as much as you claim, yes there is figure skating. Trying to attack posters for having a different opinion isn't going to change the sport. You either deal with it or watch something else. If I sign up for a sport that is known to have fighting and body checking.. I make that choice to get my millions... If I sign up for boxing to get punched in the face, I made that choice. Imagine saying I love boxing but I wish they they would remove punches to the face.. its part of the sport. Don't like it play another sport.

[dino7c]

Some terrible takes here..Lomberg got jumped, thats why the Devil player got the instigator. He tried to fight a guy half his size but obviously hasnt seen Lomberg with his shirt off.

Spontanious fight not two goons going at it for no reason.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Psytic

If you love it as much as you claim then why complain about it. Physicality has been a part of the sport since its been a sport... If that doesn't work for you and you don't really love it as much as you claim, yes there is figure skating. Trying to attack posters for having a different opinion isn't going to change the sport. You either deal with it or watch something else. If I sign up for a sport that is known to have fighting and body checking.. I make that choice to get my millions... If I sign up for boxing to get punched in the face, I made that choice. Imagine saying I love boxing but I wish they they would remove punches to the face.. its part of the sport. Don't like it play another sport.

It’s legitimately illegal within the sport - hence the penalties. The penalty for doing it though has not kept current with the wild scientific discovery that trauma to the head = bad for brain and health of players.

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

It’s legitimately illegal within the sport - hence the penalties. The penalty for doing it though has not kept current with scientific discovery.

If its illegal then its assault and they should send the police in to arrest these players. Its being disingenuous to say this, you know its a part of the sport and always has been