[News Roundup] Flames head coach search. Friedman: Huska is the leading contender

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Flames1217

Do event staffs in other organizations make more than minimum wage ?

Some yes. Shouldn’t your question instead be whether or not paying people minimum is considered cheap since the statement made by dissentowner was that Murray Edwards isn’t cheap when it comes to the flames?

[Groot]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Some yes. Shouldn’t your question instead be whether or not paying people minimum is considered cheap since the statement made by dissentowner was that Murray Edwards isn’t cheap when it comes to the flames?

Not all event staff make minimum wage, far from it. Source, I know plenty of people that have worked events and still do. Also, paying market rates for wages isn't the definition of being cheap. If you want to make claims about Edwards being cheap with the Flames, the market rates paid to event staff is a weird basis to form that opinion. Also, I doubt Edwards sets the wages for event staff.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Groot

Not all event staff make minimum wage, far from it. Source, I know plenty of people that have worked events and still do. Also, paying market rates for wages isn't the definition of being cheap. If you want to make claims about Edwards being cheap with the Flames, the market rates paid to event staff is a weird basis to form that opinion. Also, I doubt Edwards sets the wages for event staff.

If you want to consider paying people as little as you are legally allowed to pay them as not cheap that’s up to you.

[868904]

Originally Posted by RobotTalk

Murray Edwards is extremely cheap. The reason his businesses have done so well, CNRL in particular, is because they drove costs as low as possible, including by squeezing their staff on salary negotiations.

Sounds like a successful businessman.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Why weren't the Flames in on Carberry?

If they sign Treliving it would have looked like another bad trade between the two teams...

"Here take our GM and we'll take your assistant coach!"

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by dammage79

LeBrun:

Predators will make the Brunette hire, 1st reported by @KevinWeekes below, official later today.
The Preds also interviewed Spencer Carbery.
Elsewhere:
_ The Flames reached out to Gerard Gallant to gauge his interest in potentially coaching in Calgary. Answer was yes. So Gallant will be part of the interview process as Flames speak with a number of candidates;
_ Not confirmed, but hearing that Peter Laviolette is meeting with Rangers again today

Great. Just what the team needs - another 1-2 year coach.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by 868904

If there is one thing that I have learned over the past year, it is that the people running the Panthers know what they are doing.

They knew to cut bait on Huberdeau, they knew Tkachuk had another level.

If they passed on Brunette, Flames should too.

Also exposed Jonathan Marchessault to the Golden Knights after a 30 goal season. That's going to be a fun storyline in the SCF! So nobody is perfect.

[Roof-Daddy]

Not a big fan of hiring a coach with an apparent short shelf life (Gallant) but the guy wins a lot, you have to give him that.

The Flames clearly trying to win now, so that appeals to them if Gallant has said he'd come here.

Maybe they go:

HC: Gallant
AC: Love
AC: Savard or Tanguay

With an eye to potentially promoting Love when Gallant reaches his inevitable end 2.4 years from now.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Not a big fan of hiring a coach with an apparent short shelf life (Gallant) but the guy wins a lot, you have to give him that.

The Flames clearly trying to win now, so that appeals to them if Gallant has said he'd come here.

Maybe they go:

HC: Gallant
AC: Love
AC: Savard or Tanguay

With an eye to potentially promoting Love when Gallant reaches his inevitable end 2.4 years from now.

I would be ok with that.

If the team has any window at all (and management appears to believe they are still in one), it is an immediate one. Gallant is a win now coach. Just make sure the contract aligns with the shelf life of the guy.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by 868904

If there is one thing that I have learned over the past year, it is that the people running the Panthers know what they are doing.

They knew to cut bait on Huberdeau, they knew Tkachuk had another level.

If they passed on Brunette, Flames should too.

The Tkachuk had another level theme is interesting...in the regular season technically this is the level he played at for the Flames last year, he just got 3 more minutes of ice time per game.

Regular Season:

5v5:
21/22 CGY: 3.25 P/60
22/23 FLA: 3.1 P/60

5v5 xGF:
21/22 CGY: 71.9%
22/23 FLA: 64.0%

Powerplay:
21/22 CGY: 7.24 P/60
22/23: 6.17 P/60

TOI per GP:
21/22 CGY: 17:53
22/23 FLA: 20:26

So the difference is he is playing 2:30 per game in Florida. He was actually more productive at a per minute basis in Calgary.

In the playoffs it's actually a similar story, expect for Florida having a deadly PP right now and Flames PP struggling last year.

5v5
21/22 CGY: 2.11 P/60
22/23 FLA: 2.23 p/60

5v5 xGF:
21/22 CGY: 57.0%
22/23 FLA: 56.9%

Powerplay
21/22 CGY: 4.45 P/60
22/23 FLA: 8.1 P/60

TOI/GP
21/22 CGY: 17:59
22/23 FLA: 22:42

So he's played a whopping 4:43 more per game in the playoffs this year and gotten much better goaltending while he's been on the ice.

Playoff Save Percentage:
21/22 CGY: .855
22/23 FLA: .947

More icetime and better on ice goaltending (in the playoffs) has helped make it look like Tkachuk has "taken the next step". When really Florida has just trusted their stars to win them the game more than Sutter ever did.

Conroy has already said we need to play our stars more, and honestly that's probably the first step and unfortunately 2 years too late. We make fun of the Oilers for it a lot but I think it's actually the way the NHL is going. Your best players need to be on the ice for 20-22 minutes per game...no more playing them 17-18 minutes per night. I can see trying to keep them around 20 minutes a game in the regular season, but especially in the playoffs you need to have them out closer to the 22 minute mark.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

I would be ok with that.

If the team has any window at all (and management appears to believe they are still in one), it is an immediate one. Gallant is a win now coach. Just make sure the contract aligns with the shelf life of the guy.

So a half season contract?

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

I would be ok with that.

If the team has any window at all (and management appears to believe they are still in one), it is an immediate one. Gallant is a win now coach. Just make sure the contract aligns with the shelf life of the guy.

What kind of history does he have with players. Would that would facrtor in Lindy , Backlund decisions? Will Kadri play for him?

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

I would be ok with that.

If the team has any window at all (and management appears to believe they are still in one), it is an immediate one. Gallant is a win now coach. Just make sure the contract aligns with the shelf life of the guy.

The problem is, Gallent's shelf life is short, really short. Has he ever serve his full contract? If he's somewhat like Sutter, I don't think the Flames can survive another season like that. I'm surprise nothing leaked out about him, like why he get fired so often?

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

The problem is, Gallent's shelf life is short, really short. Has he ever serve his full contract? If he's somewhat like Sutter, I don't think the Flames can survive another season like that. I'm surprise nothing leaked out about him, like why he get fired so often?

Apparently he’s a good guy, smart, and players like him. But he’s also solitary, stubborn, and doesn’t collaborate well. So eventually other people in the organization tire of him.

I don’t know why Conroy would consider him for a change of direction after Sutter.

[Canada 02]

TSN insiders reiterated Gallant, Love, Huska and Muller, and added Green and Savard to the list

Surprised there are no rumors on Boudreau

[Poe969]

Or Tanguay...

[btimbit]

I like Gallant as a coach but just don't think that's the type of guy you bring in with this team being at the stage it's at

[868904]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Also exposed Jonathan Marchessault to the Golden Knights after a 30 goal season. That's going to be a fun storyline in the SCF! So nobody is perfect.

That was the previous management that gifted the Knights a first line.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

TSN insiders reiterated Gallant, Love, Huska and Muller, and added Green and Savard to the list

Surprised there are no rumors on Boudreau

Gallant or Green off of that list. So G or G.

Maybe part of me longs for the Glue Gun days...

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by DionTheDman

Player-wise, I would agree. But it seems that with coaches, the Flames scrape the bottom of the barrel more often than not. Gilbert? Hay? Gulutzan? Page? How many times have the Flames hired a coach who, upon leaving the team, ends up straight up leaving the NHL entirely?

I suspect even Hartley was hired cheap. he was desperate for a job.