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Old 08-18-2022, 12:59 PM   #281
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I’m just looking at the Florida trade. It costs the Flames the Florida 1st to open up the room to sign Kadri
Sure, but Gaudreau gone was exactly the space needed to extend Huberdeau.
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Old 08-18-2022, 01:02 PM   #282
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Hoffman and second for Mony and a 1st. I like it?

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Old 08-18-2022, 01:03 PM   #284
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Old 08-18-2022, 01:04 PM   #285
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Old 08-18-2022, 01:05 PM   #286
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Hoffman and second for Mony and a 1st. I like it?
Calgary needs to clear as much space as possible. That's a terrible deal for Calgary. Why would they want Hoffman?
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Old 08-18-2022, 01:05 PM   #287
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The Flames can't bring salary back. Unless Tre is moving Valimaki, Dube or someone else. Monahan isn't bringing anyone back. Why is everyone having such a hard time with this?
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So all in it’s

Out: Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Monahan, 4th round pick
In: Huberdeau, Kadri, Weegar, Schwindt

I’m taking that all day long
If you're adding Kadri in the mix via UFA, you'll have to include Gaudreau in leaving via UFA.
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Old 08-18-2022, 01:06 PM   #289
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Hoffman and second for Mony and a 1st. I like it?

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Wouldn't clear enough space for the Flames anyway.
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would MTL really say no if we offered a 2nd round pick?
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Old 08-18-2022, 01:08 PM   #291
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would MTL really say no if we offered a 2nd round pick?

My guess is they did say no. I don’t think BT started with a first
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would MTL really say no if we offered a 2nd round pick?
To take on over $6M of dead weight cap hit?

Absolutely they would.
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Old 08-18-2022, 01:09 PM   #293
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Does it usually take this long for specifics in a trade? It's been over 1.5 hours.
Apparently Treliving was stuck in line at an Ikea in Texas and is currently trying to assemble a desk with no more than an Allen key and a lot of curse words.

I'd expect the details to emerge in another 4 to 5 hours.
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would MTL really say no if we offered a 2nd round pick?
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Old 08-18-2022, 01:09 PM   #295
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Well, also Gaudreau out. And, I suppose, Gudbranson. If you count Kadri, you have to count them. I guess you'd add Rooney, who may be undervalued.

I kind of the see end result of the trades as Tkachuk and Monahan cap dump for Weegar, Huberdeau and Schwindt. Calgary essentially traded Monahan as part of that deal, since the first is supposedly being used for the dump.
Not in evaluating the trade(s)

You count Kadri because you moved Monahan and a 1st to acquire the space to sign Kadri

So:

Tkachuk + 4th for Huberdeau + Weegar + Schwindt + FLA 1st
Monahan + FLA 1st for Kadri

Tkachuk + Monahan + 4th for Huberdeau + Weegar + Schwindt + Kadri

Gaudreau walked and was a pure negative, but wasn't part of these transactions
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Calgary needs to clear as much space as possible. That's a terrible deal for Calgary. Why would they want Hoffman?
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Old 08-18-2022, 01:10 PM   #297
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Sure, but Gaudreau gone was exactly the space needed to extend Huberdeau.
Huberdeau could have been flipped
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Old 08-18-2022, 01:12 PM   #298
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The Florida pick it top 10 protected.
Only in 2025.

If the conditions move it to 2026, then there is no protection.

I only see conditions if it is a lottery pick in 2025.

I think that pick could be top 10 in 2026.
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Old 08-18-2022, 01:13 PM   #299
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To take on over $6M of dead weight cap hit?

Absolutely they would.
Why dead weight? It's not like he can't play. Is a first round pick really worth more than 6M?
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Old 08-18-2022, 01:13 PM   #300
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the reason you include Kadri in the transactions is that Monahan and the 1st were moved out SPECIFICALLY to sign Kadri. If no Kadri, no Monahan deal.
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