Oscars 2022

[bluejays]

Some comments on here are really silly. A comedian’s job is to tell jokes. This isn’t Rocks first gig and he was asked to do his gig his style but maybe PG which is what he did. His look back and muttering that “I could go…” showed he contemplating ripping a new one but didn’t bother. I wish he did. Smith has been a phoney nice guy since day one. He cares about his brand at all costs, phoney smiling and playing the nice guy card at every turn. Over the years there have been enough alarms on his true character but they’ve been squashed because he’s a box office heavyweight. The guy is a jerk. I wish there was more backlash to he could get it for an unprovoked attack. Did Rock know about her simple medical issue? Is it a serious issue? It doesn’t matter. He did his job and got assaulted and the spineless there did nothing. Wish he hit back with further jokes but he held back. Clearly an expose on the Smith family who are disgusting to begin with. Their egos got them in this situation and the comedy outlets will have a field day. Just wait until they turn it around and try and play PR victim somehow. Suckers born every minute.

[Manhattanboy]

Apologies for my bad attempt at a joke.

[Icantwhisper]

Part of me thinks this was all contrived and just to get attention on Will Smith.
Find it hard to care about this at all.

[btimbit]

The joke and context of the joke are completely irrelevant. It was still just that. A joke

You don't have to think it's funny, you sure as hell don't have to play along, what you definitely don't do is assault someone because your feelings got hurt.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Some jokes are earned, some jokes are out of line.

I think the sentiment from most of us is that at the end of the day, it's on us to have a thick enough hide to take the bad ones, and not to overreact when they come around. Because there will always be inappropriate jabs taken at people as long as people exist.

An attempt to suffocate every one of them is futile.

How about we learn to call things out in the right way, at the right time, and in the right manner?

This, wasn't it.

That's the point.

I disagree. I think it was just an absolutely perfect reaction. Full style points.

Nobody would have given a crap if Will Smith had done anything else at any other time. All the same people defending Chris Rock being a scumbag would still be defending him being a scumbag for what ever their stupid reasons are.

Fact is, Chris Rock was being a scumbag and fully deserved to get publicly slapped for that.

[Max Cow Disease]

I grew up watching Smith (still love Fresh Prince to this day), but the guy is clearly a bit touched, and a hefty portion of my respect for the dude swirled down the drain with this stunt. I don’t understand some of the takes. Namely, the idea that it was somehow staged (like, really? I know the Oscars “needs ratings” but come on…), or that Will’s the white knight here for putting Rock in his place after joking about a bald head (alopecia or not).

I’m not the hugest Chris Rock fan but I think what others have said in here is true - super benign joke and one that pales in comparison to what a lot of other comedians could dish out. Then in typical Hollywood weirdo, scientology-riddled fashion, the dude gets up to accept his award with some teary eyed fart-sniffing apology (to everyone but Rock) about how God is compelling him to protect people around him in his ongoing campaign to be a “vessel for love”. Just like in the movie! So cringe.

Finally, the dude’s seen booping up and down and gettin’ jiggy with it a short time later at the after party. What a cheese head.

[Firebot]

Originally Posted by Minnie

I feel kinda sorry for this guy, who people assumed was Will Smith, the actor. Will Smith (the actor) doesn't have any social media other than a barely posted to FB page, I believe, but this guy got the hell tagged out of him on twitter, last night and still a ton of that going on today.

How he must feel like

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Itse

I disagree. I think it was just an absolutely perfect reaction. Full style points.

Nobody would have given a crap if Will Smith had done anything else at any other time. All the same people defending Chris Rock being a scumbag would still be defending him being a scumbag for what ever their stupid reasons are.

Fact is, Chris Rock was being a scumbag and fully deserved to get publicly slapped for that.

You live on an interesting planet.

Do you have jokes there?

[DownInFlames]

You guys still talking about this, huh?

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by DownInFlames

You guys still talking about this, huh?

It's Monday afternoon, what else is there to do

[Nammer403]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Not to mention it's Hollywood, where 'hair' is so very often wigs, extensions, etc.
By the way, does this mean bald dudes can start slapping the sh-t out of people who make jokes at their expense for having the audacity to lose their hair through genetic predisposition? Or is this kind of emotional fragility only a rich Hollywood d-bag thing?

My guess is that Rock didn't actually know about the alopecia thing, and probably wouldn't have made that joke if he did.

Sign me up for punching someone..actually must be a Hollywood D-bag thing though cause Ive heard it it all 25+ years..mind you the bad times was elementary where kids didnt know any better...

As someone with AU (Alopecia Universalis) I thought the joke was quite funny

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by DownInFlames

You guys still talking about this, huh?

The humour police came and crashed the party.

I predict a sharp southward turn in this one.

Get out while you can!

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Itse

I find it more weird that anyone would stand up for Chris Rock. The guy was just being an a-hole.

Wat

Originally Posted by Itse

Good on Will Smith. That type of humor is so stupid and lame and I'm 100% fine with slapping someone who thinks that stuff is funny and okay. Also let's not kid ourselves, Chris Rock would have just loved it if Smith had just stuck to words. Now he clearly got a bit shook up, and that's good. Just because you get paid to make others laugh is not an excuse to be a scumbag.

Wat

Originally Posted by Itse

I mean, it was such a lame joke it's not even a joke if she's not there, the only real punchline is "ooh, look I'm being rude to someone in the audience". It's a great example of "taboo breaking" humor done badly. "Oh look, I'm insulting someone for their disabilities". Soooo brave

Wat

Originally Posted by Itse

Gervais, who I also don't find particularly funny, at least roasts people for things they do, and things people totally deserve to get roasted for. You know, roasting DiCaprio for still only dating young girls even though he's getting close to 50, or talking about the racism of Hollywood press, or about Apple's relationship with China, or just the general hypocrisy of the supposed liberals in the audience. In general his target is hypocrisy and immorality, or bad movies. Stuff people did, not something they are.

This is factually untrue. He roasts people for the height, stereo types on their background and much more. Also


Wat.

Originally Posted by Itse

Making fun of someone's disability is just school bully stuff, it's just Chris Rock being an unimaginative scumbag, and I'm totally for slapping stupid scumbags who make lame insult jokes thinking they're funny. Oscars or not.

Someone tell Patrick Stewart he's disabled.


Also.


Wat.

Originally Posted by Itse

I don't get why Americans are so fascinated with this type of low-brow insult humor and roasting, as if there was some taboo there to be broken still. It's never anything clever. They should watch more British comedy shows to see how this stuff is done well.

Wat.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

You live on an interesting planet.

Do you have jokes there?

I actually enjoy a lot of humor that's actually funny.

Something being a joke is not a defense, never was. Any good comedian would tell you that's an excuse for hacks and bullies, and any comedian worthy of the title can defend their jokes without resorting to "it was just a joke".

But I'm done here. I know that when talking to an American audience this is just futile. Still wanted to say my piece.

[Scroopy Noopers]

I can’t stop thinking about a similar encounter I had with a guy.

It was just a few guys there, he makes an absurdly rude comment about my girlfriend out of nowhere (we weren’t friends), and I quickly shot back with a joke about his wife along similar lines to his jab. He got up, slowly walked towards me, I’m standing there confused and smiling exactly like Chris rock, and he grabs me by the throat and slams me up against the wall. Said similar things that will smith said about never to talk about his wife. ####ing insane. There must be some deep rooted #### for that to be a trigger point like that.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Itse

100% serious.

Looking forward to your progressive society where people can just slap each other the moment they feel anything other than genuine joy over a comment or joke.

#### free speech and any of those liberal values, right? I don't like what you said, so I hit you now.

####, my 6 year old has more sense than this. Think about it a bit more carefully.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Itse

I actually enjoy a lot of humor that's actually funny.

Something being a joke is not a defense, never was. Any good comedian would tell you that's an excuse for hacks and bullies, and any comedian worthy of the title can defend their jokes without resorting to "it was just a joke".

Good comedians will be defending Chris Rock, I guarantee it

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

You didn't think a comedian should get slapped at a black tie event on national television by a self-obsessed multimillionaire because said comedian told a stupid, not particularly funny joke? You're defending scumbags, and you would in any context, I'm sure!

Have to love people whose take on a dumb thing that happened is to personally attack the character of literally everyone who disagrees with my take. Who's the scumbag again?

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Itse

I actually enjoy a lot of humor that's actually funny.

Think about this critically for 30 seconds.

[btimbit]

So who gets to decide what is funny and what isn't? Do I just get to punch Amy Schumer because I think she sucks?