Coyotes Tempe Entertainment District/Arena photos

[TheIronMaiden]

The silver lining is that the atmosphere of the smaller building will be more substantial.
That said, conversations about relocation have to be happening right now.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

My god if this is the case they should come to victoria we have a nice areana with way more seats and they could get revenue from concessions lol.

There's a bunch of places they could have gone with bigger arenas (Kansas City, for one, has a nice - relatively new - arena with no other major tenant to compete with), but they obviously don't want to leave the Phoenix metro area.

[Lanny_McDonald]

The whole Phoenix situation is an obvious mess. The arena situation is horrible. The potential to grow the game is limited by the craptastic situation with the arena. The NHL would be best served to move the Coyotes to another location, more suited to professional hockey, then circle back and work an angle to get an arena in Tempe built THAN bring the Coyotes back. As it is, this is embarrassing for the league and they need to acknowledge the short-term damage and the potential long-term success. The time is NOT now.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

The silver lining is that the atmosphere of the smaller building will be more substantial.
That said, conversations about relocation have to be happening right now.

Will it though? How exciting will it be to watch them get curb stomped most nights?

[TheScorpion]

I don't think the Coyotes plan on being this bad indefinitely. They have Guenther and Maccelli coming and a good shot at Wright and Bedard in the coming seasons.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I don't think the Coyotes plan on being this bad indefinitely. They have Guenther and Maccelli coming and a good shot at Wright and Bedard in the coming seasons.

I'm sure all of the interested stakeholders will be super stoked if one or both of them end up in this gong show!

[Dion]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

http://hockey.ballparks.com/NHL/Phoe...otes/index.htm

They have to take out a bunch of seats and shove the rink to one end. This results in thousands of seats with an obstructed view. It's a purpose built basketball arena.

It literally doesn't fit.

If you had seats in the upper level with the obstructed view, you couldn't see from the blue line into the goal. Back in the day the Coyotes, when they were playing in that arena, sold them as limited view at a discount that included a soda and a hotdog.

[Gemnoble]

Coyotes have faith in joint arena plan: 'This isn't putting lipstick on a pig'
https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2298793

My guy hit the nail on the head, this league has been putting lipstick on a pig for over a decade.

Edit: 2009 is when they first went bankrupt and it's been a mess ever since.

[Beatle17]

Why does anyone care so much about the Phoenix situation? If their league partners are putting up with it and see a future from the plans presented to the board of governors who are we to argue with something we know nothing about.

None of us have money invested in the team, it doesn't affect what is done by other clubs and the players seem to enjoy going to Phoenix.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Beatle17

Why does anyone care so much about the Phoenix situation? If their league partners are putting up with it and see a future from the plans presented to the board of governors who are we to argue with something we know nothing about.

None of us have money invested in the team, it doesn't affect what is done by other clubs and the players seem to enjoy going to Phoenix.

Playing armchair commissioner is no different than playing armchair GM.

[Senator Clay Davis]

To give them a little credit it does take balls to post this knowing you're going to get ratio'd. But yeah this looks even more embarrassing than I expected, pretty much every Canadian junior team is playing in a bigger rink.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1493317390213414912

[nfotiu]

If it was packed and raucous, it could be kind of cool. But, I am guessing it is half empty for a lot of their games and even more embarrassing.

[getbak]

Interesting that ESPN's top hockey guy doesn't think it will actually happen...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1493387953518923776

I wonder what he's hearing behind the scenes?

[powderjunkie]

Yikes, that is small. It looks smaller than Winsport aside from the suites.

Friedman mentioned that some of the seating might even be bleacher style. And the high ticket prices they hope to charge won't translate to any kind of atmosphere

[Calgary14]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Yikes, that is small. It looks smaller than Winsport aside from the suites.

Friedman mentioned that some of the seating might even be bleacher style. And the high ticket prices they hope to charge won't translate to any kind of atmosphere

Have they announced ticket prices? At this point it would be better to price them low to capture as much of the college crowd as possible than price them too high and have a haft empty arena meant for college hockey

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Calgary14

Have they announced ticket prices? At this point it would be better to price them low to capture as much of the college crowd as possible than price them too high and have a haft empty arena meant for college hockey

Friedman has mentioned on podcast that the models they used to justify this plan (and Bettman's insane comments that this may lose less money this way than in Glendale) involved ludicrously high ticket prices...like $250 average or something.

It'll be hard for them to have much of a pricing mix since they are all 'lower bowl' seats.

In Glendale right now a lower bowl red-line seat is around $137; endzone $83-95 with thousands of seats available. No idea what the discount is on ST's.

Managing season tickets vs. single game will be a real challenge, too.

[curves2000]

It's comical that this is being allowed to happen but perhaps people in the know, know more than I do. I don't know if this actually going to happen and this is a tactic to get people bend to their demands or up the ante for something else.

I just don't see ownership bankrolling massive losses without cutting back on serious NHL player and associated expenses. I can't believe the players and their prospects would be even remotely interested in some of the amenities that will be featured here. The wives room, workout facilities, practice facilities, ticket requests etc. This will have more of a negative effect on the performance and winning ability of the team which will make them even more of a target for all things bad. I doubt that visiting teams would even be interested in this whole set up, I can't see how this would be NHL caliber at all.

Either way, they will figure it out one way or another

[Ducay]

Like corporate base or not - how is this joke better than Quebec City?

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Calgary14

Have they announced ticket prices? At this point it would be better to price them low to capture as much of the college crowd as possible than price them too high and have a haft empty arena meant for college hockey

What?? Ok if they can’t fill an 80 person arena without discounting tickets for broke college students, then geez. I hope that’s not their target market.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

To give them a little credit it does take balls to post this knowing you're going to get ratio'd. But yeah this looks even more embarrassing than I expected, pretty much every Canadian junior team is playing in a bigger rink.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1493317390213414912

That's even worse than I was anticipating and speaks to the idea that this will be closer to 3200 for hockey than 5000. That literally looks like a lot of practice arenas that have been built beside new NHL arena projects in the past 15 years.