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View Poll Results: What do you think of the trade after a week of getting your head around it?
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Love it, think Lucic is an upgrade
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Like it, clears some cap space even if Lucic is no better
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30.35% |
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Indifferent, both teams getting a failed project
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28.81% |
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Dislike it, Neal needed another year to bounce back
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16.49% |
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Hate it, Neal will be better in Edmonton
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07-19-2019, 02:25 PM
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#281
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle
That team looked real awesome in the playoffs last year and outside of Hanafin and Lindholm the core of this roster was not put together by Treliving.
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Tkachuk? He signed Gaudreau and Monahan to great deals. Pretty much covered the core there for you.
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07-19-2019, 02:25 PM
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#282
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Jun 2018
Exp: 
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For clarification on the NMC from CapFriendly:
A No-Move Clause (NMC) can be added to a player's contract in the years after they are eligible for Group 3 Unrestricted Free Agency (7 Accrued seasons or 27 years of age), and has the following properties:
Player cannot be traded without his consent (however, the clause can specify a modified no-trade clause that limits the NTC to a certain number of teams)
Player cannot be placed on waivers without his consent
Player cannot be assigned to the minors without his consent
Player is not exempt from a buyout or contract termination
The clause can travel with the player even if he consents to being traded or is claimed on waivers
This requires that the acquiring team sign an addendum to the contract ensuring that the clause does in fact travel with the player (written by the player's agent)
If the acquiring team refuses to sign the addendum, and the player waives his clause anyway, at that point the clause may be nullified
If the player is traded before the clause takes effect, the acquiring team can opt to void the clause
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07-19-2019, 02:25 PM
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#283
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Not a UFA signing.
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What? The poster is referring to Neal, quite clearly
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07-19-2019, 02:25 PM
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#284
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by habernac
Flip Lucic back home for Loui Erickson?
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no no nonono
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07-19-2019, 02:25 PM
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#285
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Lifetime Suspension
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As much as I don’t like this deal because of his salary and term, I will enjoy Lucic punching people in the face next year they look the wrong way at Gaudreau.
Last edited by TheAlpineOracle; 07-19-2019 at 02:27 PM.
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07-19-2019, 02:25 PM
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#286
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Im ok with this. Lucic brings some size and toughness. He may be a shell of his former self but at least he can be a bit of a grinder when not scoring. Neal brought nothing to the table.
My only issue with this trade is that Neal has a better chance of returning to being a productive scorer, albeit slim.
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07-19-2019, 02:25 PM
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#287
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Treliving won't be here long enough to see the resolution of the lucic deal, so who cares.
Treliving is on the hotseat, covering his ass.
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07-19-2019, 02:25 PM
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#288
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Franchise Player
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Was never a big fan of Neal and his Canuck type dives in the first place. Lucic may be a caveman but at least he isn't a diving caveman.
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07-19-2019, 02:26 PM
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#289
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Franchise Player
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Lucic is also another LW. We have like 6, and not enough RW.
Gaudreau
Tkachuk
Bennett
Mangiapane
Dube
Lucic
RW
Lindholm
Frolik
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Trust the snake.
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07-19-2019, 02:26 PM
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#290
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
From HF, possibly an Oilers fan:
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If they think trading Lucic for Neal is “taking out the trash” they’re in for a rude awakening.
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07-19-2019, 02:26 PM
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#291
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VilleN
Tkachuk? He signed Gaudreau and Monahan to great deals. Pretty much covered the core there for you.
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He didn’t draft Gaudreau or Monahan. He inherited them.
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07-19-2019, 02:26 PM
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#292
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Franchise Player
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Go Flames Go
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07-19-2019, 02:26 PM
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#293
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Reminder that Neal had 0 trade restriction on his contract.
This is the best trade the Flames could do.
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Putting aside the fact that you have absolutely no evidence to support that claim, if it was the best deal the Flames could do, then you simply don't do any deal.
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07-19-2019, 02:26 PM
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#294
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
Prior to last year, Neal was much better than Lucic over the last few years.
Neal's numbers were terrible this season, but also remember that Lucic's CF% rel and FW% rel are higher because he played on the ####ing Oilers.
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His CF was still above 50% though despite 45% offensive zone starts. Surprisingly good all things considered. He had a positive impact with tough assignments (at least possession wise) unlike Neal who consistently killed plays and brought down his teammates.
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07-19-2019, 02:27 PM
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#295
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by VilleN
And? He did nothing.
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He didn’t dress.
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07-19-2019, 02:27 PM
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#296
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CanadaMatt
What? The poster is referring to Neal, quite clearly
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Perhaps he was. But it certainly wasn't clear.
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07-19-2019, 02:28 PM
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#297
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunk
Lucic is also another LW. We have like 6, and not enough RW.
Gaudreau
Tkachuk
Bennett
Mangiapane
Dube
Lucic
RW
Lindholm
Frolik
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Makes me think if we are now going to package Bennett + Brodie for a high end right winger... just don’t know who.
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07-19-2019, 02:28 PM
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#298
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Putting aside the fact that you have absolutely no evidence to support that claim, if it was the best deal the Flames could do, then you simply don't do any deal.
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You think there were better offers out there but Treliving decided to do a deal with the core rival of the organization for one of the worst, most toxic asset contracts in the NHL?
There was no way neal was coming back after how the season ended.
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07-19-2019, 02:28 PM
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#299
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle
He didn’t draft Gaudreau or Monahan. He inherited them.
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Yes, clearly I'm aware of that, which is why I pointed out that he signed them to great deals... RFA deals are a pretty major part of how you'd grade a GMs performance.
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07-19-2019, 02:28 PM
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#300
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Chocolah
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle
He didn’t draft Gaudreau or Monahan. He inherited them.
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Tkachuk?
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