What is Mark Jankowski?

[dustygoon]

He has always seemed like a smiley, nice dude. I bet teammates like him. But right from the draft, the flipside was evident. He doesn't seem to have much competitive fire, never see him angry or shove guys around, wilts under the pressure (ie he won't shoot), and doesn't do much with that big frame.

If he is waived, he likely gets claimed, but I don't see him having too much trade value.

[Psytic]

Kind of sucks they couldnt sell high on any of these guys. Hammer, Frolik and Jankowski all have/had lower value this year than last but I guess its all just the gift of hindsight how could anyone have known.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

Wait.

People liked Feaster?

The guy who made it embarrassing to be a flames fan for a few years... that Feaster?

Traded Iggy, Bouw and Robyn for a bunch of trash?

The guy that drafted Jankowski?

Mr. Intellectual honesty and other rubbish?

Probably a bottom 3 GM in team history and that's saying something.

Yeah, some people did. Not sure why exactly, other than he talked a pretty good game.

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

It’s bizarre.

Last year was the first year of his two year contract, and basically a 4th line C with 32 points, +6, solid on the PK including 5 SHG and 8 SHP (!) That is pretty darn close to being able to be called excellent. That seems like a guy who was developing, really found a niche, and should have been playing for a raise after this year.

I know nearly everyone on the team has taken a step back, but this is very surprising.

His confidence is shot, for sure. His decision making in the O zone last night was terrible. Bad passes under little pressure and immediate loss of the zone.

I don’t get it. But it really raises questions of not only the player but also of the coaching staff. He is capable of more. Why are they getting nothing out of the guy?

This is precisely why I'm one of those posters who is willing to ride this out unless a trade happens for another roster player that clearly makes us better. It's one thing if it's been 3 years of suckage. But Janko was really good the last 2 seasons, so there is good reason to believe that this season is the outlier and not the norm.

If he doesn't get his act together by the quarter point next season then I'm on board with sending him away. But 3rd year players in the NHL are allowed to have down seasons. It sucks, but it happens to nearly all players that they have a down season where there's no real explanation for it other then life happens.

But 1 point is damn near impossible to happen even if you 'tried' to fail. At least he got missed up in a scrum vs the Wild last night .

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Yeah, some people did. Not sure why exactly, other than he talked a pretty good game.

He took a picture of me with Connie one day at a practice at Winsport

I liked him for doing that

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

This is precisely why I'm one of those posters who is willing to ride this out unless a trade happens for another roster player that clearly makes us better. It's one thing if it's been 3 years of suckage. But Janko was really good the last 2 seasons, so there is good reason to believe that this season is the outlier and not the norm.

If he doesn't get his act together by the quarter point next season then I'm on board with sending him away. But 3rd year players in the NHL are allowed to have down seasons. It sucks, but it happens to nearly all players that they have a down season where there's no real explanation for it other then life happens.

But 1 point is damn near impossible to happen even if you 'tried' to fail. At least he got missed up in a scrum vs the Wild last night .

A down season is one thing, but this is an absolute disaster of a season. He is the worst player on the team, and I don't really think there is much argument there. Having said that, he has basically no value whatsoever and is overpaid, so might as well hang on to him and see if he can find his way out of whatever is going on. I'll be honest, I don't hold out much hope - but I'd love to see him turn it around, must be an awful feeling as it is potentially a career ender at the NHL level for him if this keeps up into next season.

[Winsor_Pilates]

I see him becoming one of those "where are they now players". In 5 years someone will look it up and he'll be playing in Germany or something like that.

Don't wish anything negative on him but I think he clearly doesnt have NHL pedigree, hopefully he finds a pro career in some way.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

I see him becoming one of those "where are they now players". In 5 years someone will look it up and he'll be playing in Germany or something like that.

Don't wish anything negative on him but I think he clearly doesnt have NHL pedigree, hopefully he finds a pro career in some way.

His grandfather, Lou, appeared in 127 NHL games with the Detroit Red Wings and Chicago Blackhawks in the 1950s. His granduncle was Red Kelly (HOF member) (and his father, Len, played with Cornell Big Red).

[rohara66]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

I don’t get it. But it really raises questions of not only the player but also of the coaching staff. He is capable of more. Why are they getting nothing out of the guy?

Wait a second.... so now its on the coaching staff to get something out of Jankowski? LOL!


He is a waste of a roster spot, end of story. Even if you are an elite penalty killer (I wouldn't say Janko is elite BTW) you still need to show some resemblance of being an NHL caliber player in the offensive zone.



Any of the kids from the AHL could step in and kill penalties just as effectively as Jankowski and put up more then 1 measly assist in 37 games played.

[442scotty]

Jankowski is the textbook definition of enigma.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by rohara66

Wait a second.... so now its on the coaching staff to get something out of Jankowski? LOL!


He is a waste of a roster spot, end of story

Well he is on the roster.

Lol. (?)

Yeah, the coaches have the job to get the most out of each player

I expect they should be figuring out that Johnny’s nonchalant backhand passes are being read and picked off, showing him things that are hurting and frustrating him and trying to give him ideas of other things he can try or consider

If the coaches are unsatisfied with Jankowski they should be coaching him. Because that’s what coaches do. Coach.

[dino7c]

Janko did a really good job on the PK last night

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by VilleN

A down season is one thing, but this is an absolute disaster of a season. He is the worst player on the team, and I don't really think there is much argument there. Having said that, he has basically no value whatsoever and is overpaid, so might as well hang on to him and see if he can find his way out of whatever is going on. I'll be honest, I don't hold out much hope - but I'd love to see him turn it around, must be an awful feeling as it is potentially a career ender at the NHL level for him if this keeps up into next season.

Hyperbole doesn't help anyone's argument.

He isn't the worst player on the team. If he was he'd be the most scratched forward wouldn't he? Obviously the coaching staff disagrees with you there.

No value? Agree to disagree.

[sempuki]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

He took a picture of me with Connie one day at a practice at Winsport

I liked him for doing that

Sorry, that's not allowed. You're required to hate everything that disappoints you.

[sempuki]

Hot take level question: would you do Jankowski for Ho-Sang right now?

[puckedoff]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

Jankowski sure gets a lot of sympathy from some members of CalgaryPuck.

I was definitely (still am?) one of those posters.

Originally Posted by Firebot

I don't get the love for one player. I would love for him to match what he did last year or better, but he clearly has made 5 steps back in every part of his game. It's like he really doesn't care to play right now.

Jankowski is butter soft, the only two players who have less hits are Gaudreau and Ryan (one less). Jankowski has 11 hits to his name. He is 6'4 and his size should be one of his advantages.

Mangiapane has 46 at 5'10, Dube has 26 and is 5'11.

https://www.hockey-reference.com/tea...l_stats_adv_rs

Jankowski has 1 point in 37 games (Rinne has triple the points), and literally dead 2nd last in the NHL for point per games played (a defenceman).

He has a 46.6 FO percentage.

He has 20 (!) shots on goal for the year. Alan Quine is the closest other player to him at 12 and he played 9 games.

These type of stats shouldn't even be possible for a regular NHLer, especially one playing over 10 min a game average. There are 20 goalies with the same amount of points or more than Jankowski and they save pucks.

So he can kill penalties? He's good in putting his long reach to have a stick in the passing zone. That makes him an NHLer?

The guy is atrocious right now and a negative on the team. He needs to go back to the AHL to regain his confidence if anything, but the total lack of effort is what really annoys me; players can contribute in other ways if struggling and he is not. He is not an NHL player this year and he needs to be demoted.

This gives me a sad. Because its true. He has looked very uninspiring.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by VilleN

A down season is one thing, but this is an absolute disaster of a season. He is the worst player on the team, and I don't really think there is much argument there. Having said that, he has basically no value whatsoever and is overpaid, so might as well hang on to him and see if he can find his way out of whatever is going on. I'll be honest, I don't hold out much hope - but I'd love to see him turn it around, must be an awful feeling as it is potentially a career ender at the NHL level for him if this keeps up into next season.

Jankowski kills penalities well. It's a mental thing, it always is with this guy. He plays with zero assertiveness. I don't know why he's stopped shooting the puck. If he'd shoot the puck, he'd have 7 or 8 points.

His underlying numbers are good. He's not costing them games. But, Rinaldo generates more offense. I don't get it.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by sempuki

Hot take level question: would you do Jankowski for Ho-Sang right now?

No. I don't think Josh Ho-Sang is a good professional. Jankowski is a responsible defensive centre who kills penalities and generally won't lose you a game. He's still young, he has size, and even with the poor production, you have ample evidence over the last 24 months that he can produce 25-30 points in a limited offensive role.

What even is Josh Ho-Sang? Czarnik is a better NHLer.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Yeah, some people did. Not sure why exactly, other than he talked a pretty good game.

He did stumble his way into a few good moves.

[GioforPM]

Jankowski is having the year Reider did last year. Now Reider has semi-bounced back (hampered by being in and out of the lineup). Jankowski's never going to be a top 6 C (or even a W). But he still could find his game in the bottom six.

It's too bad, though, there wasn't a big RHS RW who plays with an edge available instead of dropping from 14 to 21. Or a fairly big C/W who can score 30 per year.