06-07-2018, 05:38 PM
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#281
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Originally Posted by White Out 403
Horwath is a great politician and the most popular leader in the Ontario race. I've met her and heard her speak in person. She's impressive.
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In your humblest of opinions.
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06-07-2018, 05:48 PM
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#282
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by White Out 403
One of my favourite gambits for conservatives across Canada and the United States is that when the conservatives are really weak they just say that all options are terrible. I think I first came across this premise a while back from an Al Franken book or lecture he did maybe a debate. He talked about how with conservatives they just have to muddy any issue to a draw and vilify the other side. It's incredible how well it works and how easily exploitable people are.
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In this case you have the NDP promoting increasing spending without supporting with increased revenue and the Liberals running on their record. It is not acceptable to run deficits in growing economic times.
Neither of those are acceptable options.
Then you have Ford cutting taxes without having a plan to pay for it
Not an acceptable option.
I agree that the what are you going to do vote for the gay baby killers tact of the right is widely used an effective.
This is not the case with this years ontario election.
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06-07-2018, 05:53 PM
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#283
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by White Out 403
Horwath is a great politician and the most popular leader in the Ontario race. I've met her and heard her speak in person. She's impressive.
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It looks like she's going to be 0-3 in provincial elections, in the last election she ran against a weak conservative and Wynne who was already hated and she bombed the campaign. This election she's running against Rob Ford who hasn't even released a platform and she's probably going to watch the Conservatives win a majority government.
Yeah, she's terrific.
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06-07-2018, 05:59 PM
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#284
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtmac19
My poll isn’t closing until 9:20. There were problems today preventing people from voting or something?
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Yes, in multiple areas. This new system has been a nightmare.
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06-07-2018, 06:01 PM
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#285
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
It looks like she's going to be 0-3 in provincial elections, in the last election she ran against a weak conservative and Wynne who was already hated and she bombed the campaign. This election she's running against Rob Ford who hasn't even released a platform and she's probably going to watch the Conservatives win a majority government.
Yeah, she's terrific.
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In actuality she is probably going to win the popular vote but lose the election because our whole seat winning system is ridiculously broken. An Ontario election really isn't a provincial election, it is a GTA election.
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06-07-2018, 06:04 PM
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#286
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Norm!
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The last poll I saw was 39 to 36 for the conservatives, so we'll have to see on that one.
Frankly Horwath has been a poor leader, she had her biggest opportunity here and she might not beat a party with a cartoon character leader with no platform.
I would expect that the party is pretty much going to shoot her into the sun at the next convention.
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06-07-2018, 06:11 PM
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#287
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: On your last nerve...:D
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This is making the rounds amongst my Ontario friends:
I've mostly ignored it aside from noting Ford was running and thinking how utterly heinous that choice is. Good luck, Ontario. Sounds like y'all gonna need it.
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06-07-2018, 06:32 PM
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#288
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
In actuality she is probably going to win An Ontario election really isn't a provincial election, it is a GTA election.
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That is pretty much how Western Canada feels during any federal election...
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06-07-2018, 06:40 PM
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#289
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by White Out 403
One of my favourite gambits for conservatives across Canada and the United States is that when the conservatives are really weak they just say that all options are terrible. I think I first came across this premise a while back from an Al Franken book or lecture he did maybe a debate. He talked about how with conservatives they just have to muddy any issue to a draw and vilify the other side. It's incredible how well it works and how easily exploitable people are.
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You think said tactics are reserved for conservatives? Did Al Franken tell you that?
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06-07-2018, 07:05 PM
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#290
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Wow, I know the polls just closed, but some projections are for zero Liberal seats with a top end of two. That’s incredible.
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06-07-2018, 07:09 PM
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#291
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Franchise Player
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Where are people following this? I'm bored.
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06-07-2018, 07:12 PM
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#292
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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CBC news
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06-07-2018, 07:13 PM
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#294
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Franchise Player
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CTV calling PC majority?
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06-07-2018, 07:15 PM
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#295
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Pc 71
ndp 34
lib 7
green 1
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06-07-2018, 07:15 PM
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#296
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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That was quick.
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06-07-2018, 07:18 PM
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#297
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Lifetime Suspension
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Too bad the libs got a few seats.
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06-07-2018, 07:22 PM
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#298
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First Line Centre
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What can I say? The populist schtick is aimed at rubes, and that's what most people are.
Ford and his pals are going to sell every asset Ontario has and rob all of us blind, and they'll do so to thunderous applause.
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06-07-2018, 07:28 PM
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#299
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The twitter meltdown is hilarious.
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06-07-2018, 07:29 PM
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#300
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Weitz
The twitter meltdown is hilarious.
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Link a few.
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