[PGT] 5-4 OT win! Monahan hattrick, Frolik OT winner!

[JD]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

But it's obvious how we were completely saved by our top 6 this afternoon. Our bottom 6 did their best to screw us over today aside from those 3 great chances in the 3rd from Janko and Bennett x2.

Haha, so you're saying our best players played better than our worst players?

I imagine you'd complain a lot more if the reverse were true.

Hockey is a game with a lot of moving parts, including an opponent who also has good players. Rarely will you see every aspect of your team working to perfection. So I guess that means there's always something to complain about.

Yeah the signs don't point to a Stanley Cup quite yet but I don't think they ever did so one might as well relax and enjoy the games and the ups and downs that go with them. Especially when we win!

[sureLoss]

Wes Gilbertson @WesGilbertson
According to @EliasSports, #Flames C Sean Monahan is first marksman in Calgary's franchise history to score three power-play goals in one period. Claude St. Sauveur had a same-period PP hat-trick for Atlanta Flames in 1975, but none since the move north.

[Enoch Root]

More fun facts:

Last year, Gaudreau, Monahan and Ferland combined for 60 goals (18, 27 and 15)

This year they are on pace for 120 (39, 47 and 34)

[ASP#26525]

Late to the party:

Great ATL, thanks Gaskal! Those Philly guys are pretty funny:

I can't imagine what Gaudreau would look like playing for this Flyers organization.

Half the player he is today probably. Which is saying something. He's already fun sized.

And I need a giant drink of water after the Oilers comments... Holy salt, Batman!

Thank you, also, to everyone who posted 50s pics. I am huge fan of the three piece suit and the chicaboing hat (which I just realized must be an inside joke because Google Images doesn't know what I'm talking about. They are the hats like Gio/Stajan/Monny are wearing with the snap in the front). /swoooon

[the-rasta-masta]

I said this in the game thread, but figured it was worth noting here as well. Monahan has scored 15 goals in the last 23 games if you include playoffs. We haven't seen goal scoring streaks like that since the Iggy prime days.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

I said this in the game thread, but figured it was worth noting here as well. Monahan has scored 15 goals in the last 23 games if you include playoffs. We haven't seen goal scoring streaks like that since the Iggy prime days.

No matter what Mony does, he's consistently and criminally underrated by fans. They slapped an A on Mony in his 2nd year so there some obvious leadership there too.

Its always Barkov this and Sheifele that.

[Gaudfather]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

I said this in the game thread, but figured it was worth noting here as well. Monahan has scored 15 goals in the last 23 games if you include playoffs. We haven't seen goal scoring streaks like that since the Iggy prime days.

His ability to find the puck around the net, and then deposit it in the twines is starting to draw Crosby comparisons too!

[IrishSpring2013]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

No matter what Mony does, he's consistently and criminally underrated by fans. They slapped an A on Mony in his 2nd year so there some obvious leadership there too.

yes... its really strange.. any other player.. on any other team.. and this entire thread.. would be about monahan... but someone in the game thread.. said its good he scored 3 goals... so we can trade him for a "real" number one center..

he said monahan has poor possession.. even tho his numbers were positive last year.. and this year its just a hair... below stamkos..

[Love]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

No matter what Mony does, he's consistently and criminally underrated by fans. They slapped an A on Mony in his 2nd year so there some obvious leadership there too.

Its always Barkov this and Sheifele that.

I think he actually gets overrated due to his production

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by Love

I think he actually gets overrated due to his production

Lol. Classic.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

No matter what Mony does, he's consistently and criminally underrated by fans. They slapped an A on Mony in his 2nd year so there some obvious leadership there too.

Its always Barkov this and Sheifele that.

I’m definitely one of the fans that underrates Monahan but you must admit it isn’t like this hot streak has been the way he’s played throughout his entire career, so let’s not apply revisionist history for this exceptional period across his whole playing days. Same with Gaudreau. And I’ll try to do the same when he is struggling or on a cold streak, remember these times and the fact that just like any other player (or human being) there are hot streaks and cold streaks.

At the end of the day he truly is a gifted player. I think if he had a bit more of a mean streak he could truly be elite because he has the size and probably the strength to stand up for teammates, goalies, push other players after the whistle if they’re being annoying, etc. Instead he acts like a shrinking violet and never engages. Now is that because he is told to by coach so he doesn’t get a penalty? Maybe but I think it’s more likely it just isn’t his personality. After the Detroit game in the PGT, a couple posters said they were fired up seeing Monahan get so mad on the bench at the end of the game, and when he had to be restrained, these posters stated maybe this is a turning point for him. I couldn’t disagree more, because it’s just not his personality. He’s not wired that way. Iginla was, and i believe that personality trait truly helped Iginla in a very meaningful way. Helped him be a better captain, helped him stand up for teammates which bonds the team, helped generate emotion which helps the team. This is the one part that Monahan is missing but otherwise he is amazing. His shot is incredible, and he is clutch in high pressure situations, overtime, shootout, very complimentary to Gaudreau, he really is great.

Anyway, sorry for the lengthy post.

[---Hatrick---]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I’m definitely one of the fans that underrates Monahan but you must admit it isn’t like this hot streak has been the way he’s played throughout his entire career, so let’s not apply revisionist history for this exceptional period across his whole playing days. Same with Gaudreau. And I’ll try to do the same when he is struggling or on a cold streak, remember these times and the fact that just like any other player (or human being) there are hot streaks and cold streaks.

At the end of the day he truly is a gifted player. I think if he had a bit more of a mean streak he could truly be elite because he has the size and probably the strength to stand up for teammates, goalies, push other players after the whistle if they’re being annoying, etc. Instead he acts like a shrinking violet and never engages. Now is that because he is told to by coach so he doesn’t get a penalty? Maybe but I think it’s more likely it just isn’t his personality. After the Detroit game in the PGT, a couple posters said they were fired up seeing Monahan get so mad on the bench at the end of the game, and when he had to be restrained, these posters stated maybe this is a turning point for him. I couldn’t disagree more, because it’s just not his personality. He’s not wired that way. Iginla was, and i believe that personality trait truly helped Iginla in a very meaningful way. Helped him be a better captain, helped him stand up for teammates which bonds the team, helped generate emotion which helps the team. This is the one part that Monahan is missing but otherwise he is amazing. His shot is incredible, and he is clutch in high pressure situations, overtime, shootout, very complimentary to Gaudreau, he really is great.

Anyway, sorry for the lengthy post.

I don't think anyone actually believes that that second period is how he has and always plays lol. But what many here do appreciate is how clutch he is at scoring goals when he gets opportunities in close. He's been pretty consistent throughout his career.
He does his business so stealthy. I hope other teams don't give him the respect that some of us here don't because that just means more goals to come

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I’m definitely one of the fans that underrates Monahan but you must admit it isn’t like this hot streak has been the way he’s played throughout his entire career, so let’s not apply revisionist history for this exceptional period across his whole playing days. Same with Gaudreau. And I’ll try to do the same when he is struggling or on a cold streak, remember these times and the fact that just like any other player (or human being) there are hot streaks and cold streaks.

At the end of the day he truly is a gifted player. I think if he had a bit more of a mean streak he could truly be elite because he has the size and probably the strength to stand up for teammates, goalies, push other players after the whistle if they’re being annoying, etc. Instead he acts like a shrinking violet and never engages. Now is that because he is told to by coach so he doesn’t get a penalty? Maybe but I think it’s more likely it just isn’t his personality. After the Detroit game in the PGT, a couple posters said they were fired up seeing Monahan get so mad on the bench at the end of the game, and when he had to be restrained, these posters stated maybe this is a turning point for him. I couldn’t disagree more, because it’s just not his personality. He’s not wired that way. Iginla was, and i believe that personality trait truly helped Iginla in a very meaningful way. Helped him be a better captain, helped him stand up for teammates which bonds the team, helped generate emotion which helps the team. This is the one part that Monahan is missing but otherwise he is amazing. His shot is incredible, and he is clutch in high pressure situations, overtime, shootout, very complimentary to Gaudreau, he really is great.

Anyway, sorry for the lengthy post.

He is 23 years old. One of the things people always say about young players is they need to learn to play a consistent game. He may or may not be there now, but the signs are all pointing to the positive on that.

Lets see what things are like when he has played a few more years.

And you are right, he isn't a physical player as you describe, likely never will be, but that doesn't mean he can't take the rough stuff and get into the dirty areas, because he can and does.

[Mr.Coffee]

Tough to be too upset as a Flames fan these days I think. They’re a middle of the pack team, and that’s about where I thought they’d be. They’ll compete for a playoff spot and really that’s all I ask for as a fan, give us a chance to get excited about the post-season.

Things could be a lot worse, look at the NHL standings. Some of those teams behind Calgary have some pretty good rosters, so I can’t imagine those fan bases are too excited either and probably really unhappy with their results. Look at Montreal, like holy crap. They have Shea Weber and Carey Price! Galchenyuk, and just picked up a star from Tampa in the off-season. The only fans in the NHL probably happy are Tampa and LA’s.

So really Calgary has done pretty good all things considered. I also don’t understand people who say “yeah but it’s all thanks to Smith”. Well first of all yes and no, you do have to score a goal to win a game after all and I note that Smith has zero goals on the season. Secondly he is a part of the team. So, yeah, obviously he is a part of their success. It’s like saying if Pittsburgh didn’t have Crosby they likely wouldn’t have won the Cup the last two years. Okay, but they do, so they did.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by ---Hatrick---

I don't think anyone actually believes that that second period is how he has and always plays lol. But what many here do appreciate is how clutch he is at scoring goals when he gets opportunities in close. He's been pretty consistent throughout his career.
He does his business so stealthy. I hope other teams don't give him the respect that some of us here don't because that just means more goals to come

Fair but the statement that fans underrate Monahan coming off the game he gets a hat trick or a crazy streak of goals in small amount of games seems to imply that yeah, people are believing this is always how it’s been.

[Gaudfather]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Fair but the statement that fans underrate Monahan coming off the game he gets a hat trick or a crazy streak of goals in small amount of games seems to imply that yeah, people are believing this is always how it’s been.

Right now Mony is the seventh leading goal scorer in the NHL this season, tied with Schiefele, Benn and Anders Lee (admitted Anders Lee is probably not a household name either). I think what people are saying is that across the NHL Mony isn't talked about as much as say a Schiefele or Benn and obviously not as much as guys like Stamkos, McDavid and Tarasenko who are behind him!

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

I said this in the game thread, but figured it was worth noting here as well. Monahan has scored 15 goals in the last 23 games if you include playoffs. We haven't seen goal scoring streaks like that since the Iggy prime days.

Stop making me happy!!

I was also surprised to see that Monahan has only taken 1 minor penalty all season long. In fact he's never had >20 PIM in a season. For a team that really struggles some games to stay out of the box, it's pretty refreshing to know you don't have to worry about him doing something stupid that will put the team on the PK.

I don't think he'll ever really develop that mean streak I'd hoped he had, but that more then fine with type of player he is. The team needed a sniper the day Iggy left and Monahan swooped right in and took over. The fact he plays C makes it even sweeter.

He's on pace for an 86 pts season. While I don't expect him to be PPG to end the season, now it doesn't seem out of reach and the very least I think 70+ is very doable.

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by JD

Haha, so you're saying our best players played better than our worst players?

I imagine you'd complain a lot more if the reverse were true.

Hockey is a game with a lot of moving parts, including an opponent who also has good players. Rarely will you see every aspect of your team working to perfection. So I guess that means there's always something to complain about.

Yeah the signs don't point to a Stanley Cup quite yet but I don't think they ever did so one might as well relax and enjoy the games and the ups and downs that go with them. Especially when we win!

Oh please. I hate negative posters as much as the nice guy but it's not like I'm typing garbage.

The lowest CF% from a top 6 forward yesterday was Brouwer at 50%. Monahan (75%), Ferland (72%), and Gaudreau (69.57%) had their best game 5v5 yesterday despite all of Monahan's goals coming on the PP.

The highest CF% from a bottom 6 forward yesterday was Jagr at 30%. Lazar (14.29%), Versteeg (14.29%), and Stajan (11.11%) were below 15%. That's beyond embarrassing. Kulak has been absolutely fantastic in his role so far this season but yesterday him (20.69%) and Stone (18.52%) were absolutely obliterated 5v5.

We had 7 High Danger Scoring Chances yesterday. The bottom 6 had zero of them. We had 17 total chances for, our bottom 6 had a total of 3 of them (Janko x2, Bennett x1).

It was an embarrassing display from our bottom 6. With all that said, I'm not too worried. Our 4th line has been complete dog s*** all season but our 3rd line has looked great ever since Bennett was pushed to the wing and Jagr was put on it.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Oh please. I hate negative posters as much as the nice guy but it's not like I'm typing garbage.

The lowest CF% from a top 6 forward yesterday was Brouwer at 50%. Monahan (75%), Ferland (72%), and Gaudreau (69.57%) had their best game 5v5 yesterday despite all of Monahan's goals coming on the PP.

The highest CF% from a bottom 6 forward yesterday was Jagr at 30%. Lazar (14.29%), Versteeg (14.29%), and Stajan (11.11%) were below 15%. That's beyond embarrassing. Kulak has been absolutely fantastic in his role so far this season but yesterday him (20.69%) and Stone (18.52%) were absolutely obliterated 5v5.

We had 7 High Danger Scoring Chances yesterday. The bottom 6 had zero of them. We had 17 total chances for, our bottom 6 had a total of 3 of them (Janko x2, Bennett x1).

It was an embarrassing display from our bottom 6. With all that said, I'm not too worried. Our 4th line has been complete dog s*** all season but our 3rd line has looked great ever since Bennett was pushed to the wing and Jagr was put on it.

Some pretty hard matchups were played in that game, with most matchups seeing about 9-10 minutes of 5v5 against each other.

Gaudreau was most often matched up to Voracek-Couturier-Giroux - very impressive

Backlund was most often matched up to Weise-Patrick-Simmonds. A little disappointing he didn't suffocate the rookie, but maybe that's a credit to Patrick. I'm jealous that a bubble team won that lottery spot.

Jankowski and Kulak were most often matched up to Raffl/Filppula/Konecny. I can live with that... two usually good possession veterans and a stud kid. Maybe next time the Janko line wins the matchup.

Stajan was most often matched to Leier-Lehteta-Laughton - that is pretty embarassing.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Love

I think he actually gets overrated due to his production

Monahan is overrated because he produces at a high rate?

Spoiler!