[PGT] Flames crush Blues 4-1. Snap 7-game losing streak in St. Louis

[Roof-Daddy]

Flames are 21st in PP/PK differential at -2:52.

Best in the league is FLA at 17:14
Worst is Columbus at -21:18

[Cactus Jack]

Originally Posted by dino7c

That was one of the worst non-calls I have ever seen...I really need to buy a foam remote. Johnny is gonna have a broken wrist soon anyway so we won't have to worry about it. Meanwhile McDavid gets a penalty shot for someone almost catching up to him

Two minutes for getting too close to the holy spirit. McJesus is Brahmin status

[McClintock]

Call me when the Flames beat the Oilers, then ill be impressed.

[jaikorven]

Ya which is it? I am confused. It looks like we are getting screwed, but would like to actually know the true stats.

Edit: explained above....ignore my slowness.

[D as in David]

IMO, Johnny is displaying a lot of frustration in his game; not just on the non-calls on his breakaways. I wonder if he is putting too much pressure on himself due to his new contract?

[jaikorven]

Originally Posted by D as in David

IMO, Johnny is displaying a lot of frustration in his game; not just on the non-calls on his breakaways. I wonder if he is putting too much pressure on himself due to his new contract?

I have also wondered whether this is playing into it. We will never truly know either way.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by McClintock

Call me when the Flames beat the Oilers, then ill be impressed.

Hahah
What?
As if the Oilers are some measure of the best of the best? They're definitely better than they have been, and they're 2nd in the league right now, but I'm not sure they're "the team to beat" just yet.

[dino7c]

Can't just look at penalties for and against...have to actually watch the games

If its just supposed to be even why even have refs?

Last night the Flames get a penalty for a hit, Backlund gets one for....not sure. Punch in the face and a BLATANT hook on a break away, ref standing right there while the guy is water skiing. NOTHING?

Sometimes JG needs to chill but on that one I wasn't even composed in my own living room so its gotta be hard for the guy on the ice. He likely sees the treatment other young stars are getting and thinks WTF? Honestly the Flames need to talk to the league if they haven't already. They want to protect young stars apparently...buy only ones who's last names start with M.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by McClintock

Call me when the Flames beat the Oilers, then ill be impressed.

They have about 35 times in the last few years...GTFO

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by McClintock

Call me when the Flames beat the Oilers, then ill be impressed.

They did for the past 10 years...or is your memory not that good?

[jg13]

Originally Posted by McClintock

Call me when the Flames beat the Oilers, then ill be impressed.

Can't do that for a while. The Flames play 37 games before they play the Oilers again, at which point the Oilers will be bottom 5 in the league and the Flames will be in a Playoff spot.

But i'll be sure to call you then.

[PsYcNeT]

Well the Oilers beat the Flames to charging 12.50 for a beer, so there's that I guess.

[Robbob]

Were the fancy stats posted anywhere? If not anyone have a good site for them?

[northcrunk]

Oiler fans have short term memory loss unless your talking about the 80s.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Robbob

Were the fancy stats posted anywhere? If not anyone have a good site for them?

5 vs 5 Score-Adjusted Unblocked Shot Attempts:

[polak]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

No they are not. Show me someone from somewhere on the Flames that actually believes this. I'm willing to bet, since they actually run the team and know what goes on behind the scenes unlike us, that the entire management team is on-board with being patient. Are they frustrated like us? Undoubtedly. But lucky for us, they don't make rash decisions after 2 weeks of play. If it was up to you, we'd have no GM right now and no head coach. The only guy thinking the hot seat is heating up, is you and a handful of others who make up the vocal minority and happen to be the loudest ones here.

And guess what, the Flames definitely are going to lose 2 games in a row again. Maybe even 3 or 4. I'll bet the same thing happens to the eventual cup champ also.

What happens then? You'll scream and whine about it like you always do. That's what will happen.

You should check my posts since the season started. All i called for was the special teams coach to be sacked and Treliving to take heat if this continued. Hardly panic.

I was harsh on players but they deserved it the way they were playing.

Anyways hopefully this is how they continue to play. I'd love for the players to prove me wrong and have a successful PP.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

Screaming for a coach to be fired 2 weeks into the season (and you were definitely one of the more vocals ones) when EVERYONE on the ice is learning a new system is even sillier.

I'm not saying he's the perfect coach with the perfect system. But I sure as heck wasn't on board with firing him 2 weeks into the season.

The team definitely deserves credit for the last 2 games. That's all I'm saying. The team deserves a chance to show what it can do. And regardless of how many wins/losses they have, it's going to take more then 2 weeks to see what they've got.

Amen brotha.

Especially considering he was playing half a deck short with all the top players only showing effort in the last 2 games.

Mike Babcock couldn't get a team to win with the best system ever if the players aren't skating hard and three quarters of the team were barely breaking a sweat the first 6 games. You can't succeed if you're not working hard.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

Johnny has had a breakaway 3 times thus far and each time has been hooked from behind with no call. Each time after the play he has stopped, turned to the ref and complained.

Each time he has complained, he gave up possession in the corner and the play went back the other way.

Johnny needs to stop relying on the ref to stop the play and make the call because history has shown, those who become known as whiners don't get the calls that deserve to be called.

As honest as we all believe the refs are in the NHL (sarcasm..) they have a tendency to play favorited as well.

I truly believe that if Johnny doesn't stop and whine in those first two breakaways this season, he get the call last night.

But if you think for a second that there isn't already chatter amongst refs about JG and being weak on the puck and waiting.. no.. depending on the ref to make a call cause he's lost possession, then you have not watched enough hockey in your life. This #### happens all the time and isn't going to stop. There's a reason why the term "the player has to fight through it" exists.

As usual your post is full of drama and over-reacting.

As I said in my post, last night he wasn't taken out of the play by his own protest. It was the stick around his neck that moved him past the play. He then turned his head and chirped the reff (with good reason) about the egregious non-call and then kept skating.

Much ado about nothing, and if there was anything to comment on about that play, it's that it was another in a series of non-calls that was embarrassingly bad.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Just a wild theory, but maybe we're seeing the refs trying to be sneaky with their Wideman bias now?

They'll get fired if they keep calling Wideman on nothing calls so they just stop calling penalties on any player obstructing Johnny to even things out.

[FBI]

A few comments:
I'm liking Ferland on the PP, big body in front..
Tkachuk looked great, I'm hoping he stays for the year.
Bennett finally creating a bit more space there, maybe he IS going to break out this year.

Oh and now I thank Gaskal's ATL report before even reading it heh