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Old 05-31-2016, 05:50 PM   #281
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CC reader is simple. Pretty sure it was Black Keys concert where I did it at the dome. It is just like a 50/50 ticket purchase. Give them card, they (usually located just outside the various gates a few feet) scan it and ticket prints for you to then go into any entrance. It is usually only for the expensive seats ie first 2 price classes. I got two tickets on floor that are CC check to get the ticket and 2 others that are print at home, ready right now.

This whole process has been fun and disappointing to watch with reaction on twitter and here. People complaing at 10:05 show is sold out and conspiracy theories. Each transaction to confirm tickets has a max time of 13 min to complete if you add all the steps time allotments. Also anyone can post on Stub Hub without having the tickets in their hand already. Happens all the time with people and Season Tickets. The write up usually says tickets avaialbale at 'this date' for download or mail out.

Last point is each pre-sale has an alloted amount throughout any venue ie: Amex 10%, Fan Club 17%, gen public 40%, etc. Just cause they are out of pre sale for these two days does not mean the whole show is sold out. There are 6 pre and sale categories for these shows.

It will be a great last tour for the band. Hope not 'last shows' put can almost guarantee last tour.

Enjoy everyone!
I think there is genuine reason to be peeved with Ticketmaster. It used to be just release tickets at X time and go from there.

Now the tickets seem to be released in a way that most forces people into purchasing their platinum tickets at above face value. Tickets did become available via the pre-sale but at odd times and sometimes 1/2 hour later.

Some people are taking time out of their workday to do this. They may be able to set aside 10 mins, but no 1 hour.

The whole system reeks right now.
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Old 05-31-2016, 06:25 PM   #282
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I think there is genuine reason to be peeved with Ticketmaster. It used to be just release tickets at X time and go from there.

Now the tickets seem to be released in a way that most forces people into purchasing their platinum tickets at above face value. Tickets did become available via the pre-sale but at odd times and sometimes 1/2 hour later.

Some people are taking time out of their workday to do this. They may be able to set aside 10 mins, but no 1 hour.

The whole system reeks right now.
There is genuine reason to be peeved with Ticketmaster at all times. They are absolutely the worst company ever.

Unfortunately, it's no surprise that they were able to take this unfortunate situation and piss off 10s of thousands of people, just by doing business as usual.

When they heard the news last week, they were no doubt rubbing their greedy little hands together, twisting their moustaches, swishing their brandy, and saying "ooh, we'll make a fortune off of this".

Such #######s.
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Old 05-31-2016, 07:38 PM   #283
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There are a few prevailing theories as to how it happens and how people get around it.

The most popular, although not entirely likely considering they are competitors, is that Ticketmaster illegally sells the tickets directly to stubhub and gets a chunk of the resale profits. It should be noted ticketmaster has their own resale methods within their site and some people blame them for taking all the tickets and only releasing a small portion to the public.

This still wouldn't explain how they get around the credit card requirements, other than maybe some tickets are listed without that requirement.

The other is that scalpers use bots to buy all the tickets. Again, no one seems 100% sure how this gets around the requirement of ID and card at the door.

The main thing is that it is not very practical to check the tickets and IDs of 5000-10000 people at the door of a concert. In all likelihood 90% of people don't get their tickets checked. In my experience this has only ever worked when the tickets were actually picked up at the door as you enter through a special fan club or presale entrance. That's always an extremely small part of the total crowd though.

I've heard that the whole ticket and ID thing is fake anyway. The only time it ever works is if you are using will call. I've never heard of a band/promoter/venue actually making every single ticket holder show ID and CC at the door. It also isn't practical, sheer numbers and delays aside, because of the amount of people that go in groups. How would you get in if you were meeting the holder there and he got in already?

Also to remember, and no disrespect to the Hip, but most bands love scalpers. While they often publicly decry their actions, secretly it is great for the band. It increases demand and allows them to almost guarantee sell outs by creating a market for their tickets. What i mean is, some shows won't sell out but the perception is that you, as a consumer, will be battling scalpers and that you must buy tickets right away. Then the artist gets to act all high an mighty and say they had nothing to do with it, when for all we know it is actually them and their promoter selling the tickets to stubhub for a profit. Meanwhile they get to cry foul and say that they feel bad that their fans are getting screwed by the system. But don't worry, they'll add a second show! just for you the fan. Not all bands are like this but a lot are.
I've heard that some of those secondary market sites will have people who sell tickets that they don't even have yet, but plan to buy at a later date. They do this because prices are almost always going to drop as the event gets closer. But when they don't, the scalper takes a bath. Case in point, last year's Super Bowl:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...osers-scalpers
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Old 06-01-2016, 08:07 AM   #284
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My brother-in-law was able to get us each a single ticket through the AMEX pre-sale, so at least I'll be in the building. I'll still try and get a pair when they go on general sale, although I'm not holding my breath.

I also just read that the Ontario Attorney General is prepared to look into this whole resale market scam where Ticketmaster are acting as scalpers. Doubtful that anything will ever come of it, however.

http://globalnews.ca/news/2733184/on...y-hip-tickets/
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Old 06-01-2016, 08:11 AM   #285
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HEy guys, can anyone fill me in on how some injuries are impacting their hockey pool?

(Let's talk about The Hip, leave your ticket bull#### at the door)
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HEy guys, can anyone fill me in on how some injuries are impacting their hockey pool?

(Let's talk about The Hip, leave your ticket bull#### at the door)
So we can talk about the band, but not about the process of buying tickets to actually go and see the band?

This is the week of the pre-sales, ending with the general sale. It is on-topic and relevant, and ticket discussion will fade once it all passes anyway.
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Here's a question - it says Doors open at 7pm...what time would the actual concert start?
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I have this documentary on VHS somewhere. An interesting snapshot of The Hip, Another Roadside Attraction, and Canada in general... in 1993.

Unfortunately segment 9 of 11 has been taken down on copyright grounds by Universal...

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Here's a question - it says Doors open at 7pm...what time would the actual concert start?
It can really depend. Usually they'll announce it on twitter the day of or you may be able to find out what time they'd be going on from other shows.

Depending on whether there is an opening act it could be as early as 8pm and as late as 930pm.
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I have this documentary on VHS somewhere. An interesting snapshot of The Hip, Another Roadside Attraction, and Canada in general... in 1993.

Unfortunately segment 9 of 11 has been taken down on copyright grounds by Universal...

I have that VHS too! Super interesting. I actually dug it out the other night but then realized I don't have a VCR nor do I know anyone who has a VCR. Sad
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Managed to get a couple tickets. Now I have to figure out how/if I can actually get to a show that is 2700 km away.
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I can't even imagine how emotional these shows are going to be.
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Managed to get a couple tickets. Now I have to figure out how/if I can actually get to a show that is 2700 km away.
Which show? You'll find a way!
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I can't even imagine how emotional these shows are going to be.
Very few people/bands can rightfully claim to be a voice of a generation but these guys can. Even if you didn't like the music if you are 40ish years old right now you can respect that. Huge part of Canadian culture for those of us that are of that age.

It will be tough especially as you near the end of the show. It will be emotionally draining. Of that I have no doubt.

And I wouldn't have it any other way.

edit: Aug 3 show. We plan to be in Saskatchewan at that time (family) so it won't be an issue in that regard, but I have a pending business trip to Japan which may fall during that time. Trying to avoid that but I have no control as the JAEA is doing some neutron testing for us and I'm held to their schedule. Which I haven't received yet.

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Here's a question - it says Doors open at 7pm...what time would the actual concert start?
The more relevant question for me is how early can/should I head down to the grounds to celebrate/commiserate in the parking lot?
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I ended up with tickets for 3 Aug. Would prefer 1 Aug.

Anyone out there in the reverse situation?

edit: got tiks for both now, all good might try to go to both shows.

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The more relevant question for me is how early can/should I head down to the grounds to celebrate/commiserate in the parking lot?

I think if you went next week that should give you enough time to party pre-show.
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FYI.. there are some Side Stage tickets available right now for the August 3 show.
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FYI.. there are some Side Stage tickets available right now for the August 3 show.
Thanks. Just grabbed 4. $186 for side stage kind of sucks ($20 in fees per ticket?!) but at least we'll be there and close-ish to the stage. If we happen to get a better set of 4 on Friday, I'll unload these on here or Stubhub at cost.
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Haven't listened to 2012's Now for Plan A but 2009's We Are the Same album is incredibly good. Anyone who has enjoyed the more indie alternative songs that they've put out will really enjoy it. It's a shame the first single was Love is a First, because it's not indicative of the rest of the album at all.

Morning Moon, The Last Recluse, Coffee Girl, Now the Struggle has a Name and the 10 minutes 3 song in 1 The Depression Suite are all a pleasure to listen to.
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