08-12-2015, 03:11 PM
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#281
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
I doubt this is practical. Reporters are out in public all the time, and are routinely the target of heckling and jeering. News organizations are already struggling financially. They can't afford to hire security guards to accompany every reporter doing a streeter or at a live event.
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Then maybe they should not put people in the field if this is happening as often as people say. There is also my suggestion from before, put a sign up, just out of view of the camera, that says something along the lines of We are taping a segment for the news, it is on a 15 minute delay (or just say for later).
With the delay people would be much less likely to do something stupid like this because it would not make it on TV and they would not get their "fame". There is very little to gain from having it live from a location unless it is something huge like a massive explosion\fire\crash etc. A music festival being like adds nothing.
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08-12-2015, 04:14 PM
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#282
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Self-Suspension
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Originally Posted by Sliver
What are you talking about? I'm capable of empathizing with both. It's not an either/or. You've never done anything that seemed like no big deal to you at the time, but you ended up hurting somebody, or they misinterpreted your intent, or you just misjudged how what you were doing would be perceived? Of course you have, and I bet you did it more when you were a kid versus how often you do it as an adult. I feel bad this kid's misstep is out there for all of us do judge so harshly. That doesn't mean I don't feel bad the reporter was startled.
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Did you not read what I said? It's a contradiction to a statement that doesn't exist; I clearly emphasized with both sides, clearly stated most people have harassed another at some point. You are making an argument against me for something I didn't say, at all.
Why is that? What is your real issue here because you aren't perceiving my words at any level of clarity. Spit it out, what's the problem here that would cause such a fundamental misinterpretation of everything I said?
Last edited by AcGold; 08-12-2015 at 04:16 PM.
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08-12-2015, 04:22 PM
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#283
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by northcrunk
What news organizations are struggling so bad?
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Almost all of them. Broadcast news is in decline (as all major network television is). The CBC has had its budget cut relentlessly for years. Print news, even in its online format, is pretty much dying (Calgary's major newspapers have been shedding jobs for years, and the Sun and Herald will likely merge at some point since they were recently taken over by the same company).
The median salary for a journalist in Canada is $41,000, and if you earn $77,000 you're in the top 10th percentile in salary.
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08-12-2015, 05:26 PM
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A lot of discussion and excuses over what seems to be a fairly simple rule: Don't touch strangers. Keep you hands, lips and/or penis to yourself. Using other body parts to touch them should also be avoided.
Rape is obviously a different thing altogether. Consent seems horribly confusing for some so I'm not going to even get into that. I think the above rule is good for most non-rape situations though. I can honestly say in my 3+ decades on this planet, I have adhered to it flawlessly since at least grade 5 or 6.
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08-12-2015, 06:38 PM
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#285
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Originally Posted by Superflyer
Then maybe they should not put people in the field if this is happening as often as people say. There is also my suggestion from before, put a sign up, just out of view of the camera, that says something along the lines of We are taping a segment for the news, it is on a 15 minute delay (or just say for later).
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This quote and what the news is doing is completely the wrong approach, in my opinion. The more interruptions by a bunch of losers is what makes more people watch...there is a reason Howard Stern is the king - he took advantage of including the crazy people into his show, giving them the opportunity to actually take the microphone. Just look at this thread, we are talking about what happened.
I certainly don't agree with the guy touching her, but trust me, the station LOVES it.
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Originally Posted by Superflyer
With the delay people would be much less likely to do something stupid like this because it would not make it on TV and they would not get their "fame". There is very little to gain from having it live from a location unless it is something huge like a massive explosion\fire\crash etc. A music festival being like adds nothing.
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There is everything to gain from being live, the crazier the interruption, the more publicity they get.
I bet some stations are already figuring out how to create their own interruptions.
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08-12-2015, 07:15 PM
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#286
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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
This quote and what the news is doing is completely the wrong approach, in my opinion. The more interruptions by a bunch of losers is what makes more people watch...
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I'll bet you could count on zero hands the number of people who watch the local CBC news to see "interruptions".
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08-12-2015, 07:36 PM
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#287
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
I doubt this is practical. Reporters are out in public all the time, and are routinely the target of heckling and jeering. News organizations are already struggling financially. They can't afford to hire security guards to accompany every reporter doing a streeter or at a live event.
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This was just one suggestion. Maybe they hire their own in house security instead of contracting it. However if this is as bad as CBC has made it out to be, they should be having a think tank on solutions to this problem at the minimum.
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08-12-2015, 08:00 PM
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#288
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Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix
A lot of discussion and excuses over what seems to be a fairly simple rule: Don't touch strangers. Keep you hands, lips and/or penis to yourself. Using other body parts to touch them should also be avoided.
Rape is obviously a different thing altogether. Consent seems horribly confusing for some so I'm not going to even get into that. I think the above rule is good for most non-rape situations though. I can honestly say in my 3+ decades on this planet, I have adhered to it flawlessly since at least grade 5 or 6.
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08-13-2015, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
I'll bet you could count on zero hands the number of people who watch the local CBC news to see "interruptions".
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Perhaps that is why the station must be subsidized to stay afloat?
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08-13-2015, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
Perhaps that is why the station must be subsidized to stay afloat?
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They can do something about that, report the news better and hire quality journalist.
Since there seems to be such a safety concern for their on field reporters then providing them with a safer workplace may indeed help in that degree. It's easy to point fingers if they refuse to point their own direction first
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08-14-2015, 02:07 AM
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yes, it is certainly the stations fault that they did not count on the fact that all males are unable to control themselves in the presence of a female reporter. I have no idea what they were thinking putting a girl in the field. Of course she was going to be assaulted by gods gift to women. These news stations are clearly the ones who need to learn how to better control the environment in a public situation.
Or these doosh tards that form the solid 0.01% of the populace could be shaken into realising they are idiots..... but what could we do to show them they are clearly in the wrong..... I can't think of anything so we should keep going with the status quo as it hasn't yet resulted in complete social meltdown, so we have to wait till it does.
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08-14-2015, 09:04 AM
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#292
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Originally Posted by Swarly
yes, it is certainly the stations fault that they did not count on the fact that all males are unable to control themselves in the presence of a female reporter. I have no idea what they were thinking putting a girl in the field. Of course she was going to be assaulted by gods gift to women. These news stations are clearly the ones who need to learn how to better control the environment in a public situation.
Or these doosh tards that form the solid 0.01% of the populace could be shaken into realising they are idiots..... but what could we do to show them they are clearly in the wrong..... I can't think of anything so we should keep going with the status quo as it hasn't yet resulted in complete social meltdown, so we have to wait till it does.
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That is just plan ignorant
If I am an employer that in charge of a group of employee that work out in a field in which they are being assaulted then I would take it upon myself to make sure I did everything possible to ensure I provided a safe working conditions for those employees. Putting your head in the sand and blaming the assaulter is negligence and not doing a thing to correct the problem
Even with your head in the sand you should be able to see that still
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08-14-2015, 09:09 AM
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#293
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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
Perhaps that is why the station must be subsidized to stay afloat?
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Ha. Okay, got me.
I'll bet you could count on zero hands the number of people who watch any news just to see "interruptions". It's just not a thing. Nobody does that.
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08-14-2015, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
Ha. Okay, got me.
I'll bet you could count on zero hands the number of people who watch any news just to see "interruptions". It's just not a thing. Nobody does that.
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You are 100% correct. But if you don't think this drums up publicity, you would be 100% wrong.
Howard Stern became one of the highest paid people in entertainment for a reason. As soon as some wacky person called in to his show, he let them run with it, not hang up. He has spoken openly about what has made him successful, and if you think about it, reality TV is just an extension of that.
Rutherford's local radio show did just that as well, he welcomed angry callers and engaged them. That was a high point in his show.
CBC right now, is doing whatever they can to squeeze this event for what it is worth. So although there are not people watching for the interruptions, the events certainly increase viewers.
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