06-16-2015, 07:42 PM
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#281
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
I have heard from someone that knows Greens family he does not want to play for the Flames but that is an orange Julius level of info
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I remember those quotes from years ago but this team is totally different now. Not that I'm saying we need to get Green but he may have a new opinion now.
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Originally Posted by ricardodw
we just are recovering from the last time we did that.... How could anyone see that adding Bouwmeester to an already solid defense would turn a 5 year in a row playoff team into a 5 year in a row no playoff team.
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Let it go man.
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06-16-2015, 08:27 PM
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#282
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Parallex
Pretty easily actually. Even at the time there were plenty of folk who expressed concern that the amount of the cap that was allocated to defense was leaving the forward core depleted of needed talent... I mean just think about this: David Moss = #1 Center.
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When the Flames acquired Bouwmeester, the top two centres were Daymond Langkow and Olli Jokinen.
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06-16-2015, 08:34 PM
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#283
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
When the Flames acquired Bouwmeester, the top two centres were Daymond Langkow and Olli Jokinen.
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Thanks... I hate it how some people make up stuff like David Moss being a #1 C, when he was only tried there for a few games.
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06-16-2015, 08:38 PM
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#284
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
When the Flames acquired Bouwmeester, the top two centres were Daymond Langkow and Olli Jokinen.
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The Flames 4th highest paid forward that year was Rene Bourque at $1.6M. (Prior to all the trades)
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06-16-2015, 08:43 PM
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#285
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Phanuthier
Thanks... I hate it how some people make up stuff like David Moss being a #1 C, when he was only tried there for a few games.
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But he was tried there because our centre depth was that pitiful throughout those years. The fact we even had to consider that as an option (as limited a time as it was) speaks for itself.
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06-16-2015, 08:45 PM
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#286
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
The Flames 4th highest paid forward that year was Rene Bourque at $1.6M. (Prior to all the trades)
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and...?
Not being ignorant I'm just trying to get your point of what the 4th highest paid forward makes is. Is it that they spent all of their money on D?
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06-16-2015, 08:46 PM
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#287
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#1 Goaltender
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The problem wasn't the money spent on defense it was the actual defenders.
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06-16-2015, 08:48 PM
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#288
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
But he was tried there because our centre depth was that pitiful throughout those years.
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No, he was tried there because none of the regular centres were clicking with Iginla and the coaching staff wanted to get him scoring.
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06-16-2015, 08:59 PM
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#289
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azhouse
and...?
Not being ignorant I'm just trying to get your point of what the 4th highest paid forward makes is. Is it that they spent all of their money on D?
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Yes that was the comment made by Parralex was people were concerned about the money spent on D. I quoted the wrong post TBQH.
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06-16-2015, 09:16 PM
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#290
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Franchise Player
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Phaneuf - Regehr
Bouwmeester - Giordano
Sarich - (Pardy?)
Still confuses/frustrates me that this group crashed and burned, leading to the Phaneuf trade and the implosion of the whole season. This is probably why Butter couldn't find work in the NHL again.
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06-16-2015, 09:18 PM
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#291
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MelBridgeman
This may have been already mentioned and I know Mike is from Calgary, but he is building a house on the Glenmore Reservoir at this moment...
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Are you sure? There are no houses on the reservoir being built right now in my neighbourhood and I don't think there is anywhere else houses are actually on the res... Unless he bought the one knock-down property that was for sale.
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06-16-2015, 09:24 PM
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#292
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by saillias
Phaneuf - Regehr
Bouwmeester - Giordano
Sarich - (Pardy?)
Still confuses/frustrates me that this group crashed and burned, leading to the Phaneuf trade and the implosion of the whole season.
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Heh...
Phaneuf (24)
Bouwmeester (25)
Regehr (29)
Giordano (25)
Sarich (31)
Pardy (25)
Also, that was the year that we had Stralman and traded him for a pick, he was 23 years old.
Absolutely ridiculous looking defense on paper, and all the key guys in their early prime years.
Big, young, mobile, mix of defensive studs and offensive puck movers.
Good grief, how'd that get screwed up so badly?
I agree, had to be mostly Brent Sutter's fault.
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06-16-2015, 09:40 PM
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#293
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Heh...
Phaneuf (24)
Bouwmeester (25)
Regehr (29)
Giordano (25)
Sarich (31)
Pardy (25)
Also, that was the year that we had Stralman and traded him for a pick, he was 23 years old.
Absolutely ridiculous looking defense on paper, and all the key guys in their early prime years.
Big, young, mobile, mix of defensive studs and offensive puck movers.
Good grief, how'd that get screwed up so badly?
I agree, had to be mostly Brent Sutter's fault.
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I think there were some locker room issues with that team. There had to be. They were the best team on paper that year but for whatever reason they couldn't put it together on the ice.
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06-16-2015, 09:50 PM
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#295
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Originally Posted by The Original FFIV
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06-16-2015, 10:17 PM
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#296
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler
Are you sure? There are no houses on the reservoir being built right now in my neighbourhood and I don't think there is anywhere else houses are actually on the res... Unless he bought the one knock-down property that was for sale.
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Maybe he meant in bel aire?
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06-16-2015, 10:32 PM
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#297
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by saillias
Phaneuf - Regehr
Bouwmeester - Giordano
Sarich - (Pardy?)
Still confuses/frustrates me that this group crashed and burned, leading to the Phaneuf trade and the implosion of the whole season. This is probably why Butter couldn't find work in the NHL again.
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I blame Brent for all of it. He castrated our offense and even though the team was winning games and playing well he was always complaining about how they weren't playing his system yet. Should have been a clue to him that he needed to adjust his system.
Also he never should have had Dion & Regehr playing together, the beef between them was obvious. He really should have tried Bouwmeester with either Dion or Regehr and Giordano/Sarich with the other.
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06-16-2015, 10:39 PM
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#298
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by saillias
Phaneuf - Regehr
Bouwmeester - Giordano
Sarich - (Pardy?)
Still confuses/frustrates me that this group crashed and burned, leading to the Phaneuf trade and the implosion of the whole season. This is probably why Butter couldn't find work in the NHL again.
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I can actually see why this group failed. They fit together terribly. The player that really would have brought a ton of balance to that group would have been Stralman, using hindsight of course
Regher - Stralman
Giordano - Sarich
Bouwmeester - Phaneuf
Looks way better
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06-16-2015, 10:45 PM
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#299
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by neo45
I can actually see why this group failed. They fit together terribly. The player that really would have brought a ton of balance to that group would have been Stralman, using hindsight of course
Regher - Stralman
Giordano - Sarich
Bouwmeester - Phaneuf
Looks way better
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You seem to be forgetting 2 things. Stralman was only a borderline NHLer then and not a top pairing defenseman and Giordano was just becoming a top 4 defenseman, so him being ahead of Phaneuf and Bouwmeester is laughable.
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06-16-2015, 11:19 PM
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#300
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A point that people are missing is that the Flames had a solid top 4 in 2008/09 ... they made the playoffs comfortably and were poised to make a playoff run.... but the whole 2nd line plus Regher and then Phanuef were injured.
Rather than holding their water, of resigning Aucion for 2M/yr for 2 years... he went on to phx as a playoff top 4 d-man for the next season and starting again with a healthy Regher and Phanuef they panicked.. they made a major change bringing in Bouwmeester for no good reason and everything fell apart.
At the time the biggest need was a Cammelleri/Bertuzzi replacement... but we got Bouwmeester and Nigel Dawes instead.
I really like the point where the Flames are now. Unless Gio is not coming back at 100% I don't see the need to add a big name/salary player .... until we find out about the guys we have that made such progress as a team.
If it isn't broke don't fix it.
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