2014/2015 PGA Tour and Champions Tour Thread

[Strange Brew]

[QUOTE=DoubleK;5402062]He was competitive this year. /QUOTE]

Are we talking about the same guy? Tiger was horrible this year.

[killer_carlson]

Champions Tour:

Could be a big day for Canadian golf on the Champions Tour tomorrow.

Going into the final round Rod Spittle is in first, with Ames 2 shots back in a tie for 4th. Of the leaders Spittle is leading in the putting category. Ames is tied for low round in the tournament thus far.

Hoping we see them finish 1-2.

[Flabbibulin]

Mcllroy taking back #1 this week without even playing is a joke. I realize the points are a culmination of many months, but still.

[edn88]

Originally Posted by Flabbibulin

Mcllroy taking back #1 this week without even playing is a joke. I realize the points are a culmination of many months, but still.

And your better system is what?

[Flabbibulin]

Originally Posted by edn88

And your better system is what?

Oh, I didn't realize I needed to develop a completely new system before being able state an opinion.

The system is not perfect, and it is probably not possible to make it perfect. That said, a 24 month point system isn't the issue- it is weight of those tournaments 12+ months removed that need to be looked at and possibly decreased more progressively than they already are. The "best golfer in the world" is something the majority of analysts and commentators appoint to the one playing the best this particular season- or even much less. It gets even more apparent toward the end of the season, when it is clear who had had the best year. I can guarantee the majority of people see Speith as the best golfer in the world. Its too bad the point system doesnt quite reflect that. Once Rory's 2014 points start disappearing though, it will start taking Mcllroy way down if he doesn't win a couple.

Edit- and as I post this, Faldo says Day is playing the best of anyone in the world right now- the last month or so.

[GirlySports]

ha tennis is worse. One year Nadal beat Djokovic in the French final and Djokovic still became #1 that week!

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Flabbibulin

Oh, I didn't realize I needed to develop a completely new system before being able state an opinion.

The system is not perfect, and it is probably not possible to make it perfect. That said, a 24 month point system isn't the issue- it is weight of those tournaments 12+ months removed that need to be looked at and possibly decreased more progressively than they already are. The "best golfer in the world" is something the majority of analysts and commentators appoint to the one playing the best this particular season- or even much less. It gets even more apparent toward the end of the season, when it is clear who had had the best year. I can guarantee the majority of people see Speith as the best golfer in the world. Its too bad the point system doesnt quite reflect that. Once Rory's 2014 points start disappearing though, it will start taking Mcllroy way down if he doesn't win a couple.

Edit- and as I post this, Faldo says Day is playing the best of anyone in the world right now- the last month or so.

Without a case of vertigo Day probably wins the US Open as well, As soon as Spieth stopped making every 15ft putt you had to know his perch at the top wouldn't last. As good as he is I feel Spieth doesn't have the power game to stay near the top whereas guys like Mcllroy and Day can bomb it and still play the short game/putting to win. I also like D.Johnsons game too but I putt better than him!

When it comes to a "feel good" story how can one not pull for Jason Day over all the other silver spoon fed guys.

http://www.golfeneur.com/the-jason-day-story/

[corporatejay]

Spieth is essentially a child. Can't really knock him for power when he's still not physically mature.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I think Jason Day is hotter right now than almost anyone has ever been. Goes 61, 63 to start and ties the PGA 36 hole scoring record at -18. Jordan and Rory are both playing well, but are 7 and 9 shots back respectively.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Spieth is essentially a child. Can't really knock him for power when he's still not physically mature.

He's 22 not 18, not likely he'll get any longer with age now, In his first season on tour at 21 Tiger Woods was top 5 in distance and actually regressed a little in length as he got older.

Speaking of Woods, it appears he still wasn't healthy this season as he had a 2nd back surgery today to fix a pinched nerve problem.

[Flabbibulin]

Wow, a pretty incredible final day at Solheim cup. The US on the verge of a historic come back- 13.5 to 12.5 for Europe at the moment, but US leading in final 2 matches.

The Europeans are going to make headlines today with some pretty disgusting tactics- and possibly one of the most unsportsmanlike moves I have seen in golf. American Allison Lee missed about a 10 foot putt to win a hole, leaving her a 10 inch gimme- as Lee walked over to apparently tap it in, the Europeans started walking away indicating the putt was conceded- to top it off, someone in the gallery apparently called out "thats good". Anyway, while the Europeans were well on their way to the next hole, they decided to call back that they never actually conceded the putt. Incredible, and Suzann Pettersen's reputation may take a big hit here.

http://www.golfchannel.com/news/golf...s-controversy/

Golf Channel commentators suggesting even a lot of the gallery are a little less upset about a possible American win after all this controversy.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Flabbibulin

the Europeans started walking away indicating the putt was conceded- to top it off, someone in the gallery apparently called out "thats good". Anyway, while the Europeans were well on their way to the next hole, they decided to call back that they never actually conceded the putt. Incredible, and Suzann Pettersen's reputation may take a big hit here.

Your story is a bit off there from what I'm reading in your link.

Yes, the Europeans walked off but there was zero indication given by them that they were giving the American a gimme. No verbals, no non verbals.

The American assumed that the hole was conceded based on nothing (apart from maybe the idiot in the crowd). Players start walking off the hole all the time as others are about to finish out and it has never been interpreted as concession.

I don't see how her reputation should take a hit based on her opponent making an assumption based on nothing. She did nothing as regards to creating the situation but I suppose in the spirit of good gamesmanship she could have conceded it later. But I don't believe there was any intent by her or her staff to mislead. The American created the problem.

[Flabbibulin]

An individual in the gallery, or wherever, allegedly calling out something helped create the problem, but you always see opposing teams walk away from a gimme like that when a "good" has been called- whether or not they need to always verbally say something or if a gesture is ok, Im not sure. I cant recall a single time where a team walks away abruptly like that, but still expects a putt. It is the abruptness of them walking away that is a big problem imo. Sure you can find some fault with Allison Lee, but the response has been overwhelmingly against the Europeans on this- whether that is because people feel it was orchestrated or because they feel the Europeans should have sucked it up and just called good in light of the gallery comment and the manner in which they walked away.

[T@T]

Anyone else think the fed-ex cup setup is stupid?

Jordan Spieth builds up a nice lead but plays like crap the last 3 months, Jason Day wins 4 times in the last 9 tourneys including twice in these playoffs, builds up a huge lead only to see the points reset for the final where sour faced Henrick Stenson can win the 10 million despite not winning a tourney all year. Jason Day shouldn't have to win this tourney to win it all IMO.

Why not just make the tour championship worth $10m to the winner?

[Roof-Daddy]

The year of Spieth comes to a close.

What a season for him, capping it off with a 4 shot win at the Tour Championship.

....only 22 years old.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by T@T

Anyone else think the fed-ex cup setup is stupid?

Jordan Spieth builds up a nice lead but plays like crap the last 3 months, Jason Day wins 4 times in the last 9 tourneys including twice in these playoffs, builds up a huge lead only to see the points reset for the final where sour faced Henrick Stenson can win the 10 million despite not winning a tourney all year. Jason Day shouldn't have to win this tourney to win it all IMO.

Why not just make the tour championship worth $10m to the winner?

Huh, horrible 3 months? A win plus runner up and t4 at the 2 majors during that span. It was a season that was only rivalled by tiger woods in recent history. It seemed pretty fitting for him to win the FedEx cup with the win today. It may be a bit of a contrived playoff format but it worked out that the guy with by far the best year won.