[News] NHL suspends Voynov indefinitely after domestic violence arrest. Upd: Voynov charged

[Locke]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Oh I don't doubt it. I'm just saying what I would like to see. It would be nice for the NHL to set an example and have zero tolerance on those convicted of spousal abuse.

But hey, he's a great hockey player so I'm sure he'll play again.

I know, but I honestly dont agree completely.

We're talking about a specialized jobs in an industry with very high barriers of entry and hes one of the few.

The NHL banning him would dramatically affect his ability to earn a living that is fit to his abilities and blah, blah, blah.

The NHL would get sued by the PA so fast it'd make their head spin.

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Kings should not be able to void Richards contract for being investigated for pain killers at the border then keep a guy who brutally beat his wife. If Richards contract is void so should Voynov's

Again, the Devil is in the details.

Richards isnt being terminated because of the crime he committed, he's being terminated for not informing the club.

Voynov informed the club of the crime he committed and ergo the two situations are not the same.

[sureLoss]

Did Voynov inform the Kings? or did the Kings only know because there are a bunch of news reporters that listen to police scanners and monitor public records in LA that his arrest got out?

Semantics arguing!

[Locke]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Did Voynov inform the Kings? or did the Kings only know because there are a bunch of news reporters that listen to police scanners and monitor public records in LA that his arrest got out?

Semantics arguing!

Oh yes and then that gets interesting.

Voynov: Um, so I got arrested...

LA Kings: Um yeah, we know. Everyone knows.

I'm not sure how much it matters though.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Locke

And I think they're going to get away with both, Voynov back and Richards gone.

I think there is about zero chance they win the Richards case. Good try on their part but not a chance in hell they get away with it.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Punishing him indefinitely would be life in jail. I'm not advocating that, I just believe that playing in the NHL is a privilege, not a right. And the NHL would be setting a fine example that beating up your spouse will not be tolerated by the league.

To me, life in prison is pretty definite. But in addition to his freedom being taken away for 90 days, people like you think he should lose pretty much everything else: his livelihood, his work visa, his marriage, etc. etc. etc. Where does it end? Don't think Voynov is a good guy, but he served his punishment -- if you aren't satisfied then you should probably take a closer look at yourself and figure out why there's no room for forgiveness.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by cannon7

To me, life in prison is pretty definite. But in addition to his freedom being taken away for 90 days, people like you think he should lose pretty much everything else: his livelihood, his work visa, his marriage, etc. etc. etc. Where does it end? Don't think Voynov is a good guy, but he served his punishment -- if you aren't satisfied then you should probably take a closer look at yourself and figure out why there's no room for forgiveness.

Hahaha, what? This is a hockey forum and as a hockey fan I'd like to see the NHL take a tough stance against those who beat up their wives or girlfriends. Why in the world do I need to take a closer look at myself for that????? What a strange comment. Never said anything about his marriage. And as for his livelihood, the NHL isn't the only pro league on the planet, he can get paid to do what he does in other leagues.

[Passe La Puck]

Originally Posted by cannon7

He did his time. Lets move on. Don't really understand those who think he should effectively be punished indefinitely.

He really didn't though, the time he served is a complete farce. He got 45 days for a brutally beating his spouse, people get life for minor possession charges.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Hahaha, what? This is a hockey forum and as a hockey fan I'd like to see the NHL take a tough stance against those who beat up their wives or girlfriends. Why in the world do I need to take a closer look at myself for that????? What a strange comment. Never said anything about his marriage. And as for his livelihood, the NHL isn't the only pro league on the planet, he can get paid to do what he does in other leagues.

In this instance, two-strikes and you're out would be my stance. One needs to prove one can learn from their mistakes and carry on life as it was before things took place.

I feel the same way about Mike Richards as well, and where I separate the two is that I have a hunch Richards was on strikes 3 or 4 or 5.

Anyways, I used to take the hard line stance you're speaking of here for many reasons but in the end, life is about living, learning and redemption. He's done his time. Let's see what he has learned.

[justafan]

You want to give a man "another strike" and then he's out. Generous, but I'm afraid his wife can't take any more striking, it was pretty vicious the first time. I hope he does get plenty of help for his anger and attitude towards a loved one. The punishment was pretty slack.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by cannon7

To me, life in prison is pretty definite. But in addition to his freedom being taken away for 90 days, people like you think he should lose pretty much everything else: his livelihood, his work visa, his marriage, etc. etc. etc. Where does it end? Don't think Voynov is a good guy, but he served his punishment -- if you aren't satisfied then you should probably take a closer look at yourself and figure out why there's no room for forgiveness.

Why would anyone's satisfaction matter, other than his wife's? Weird comment, it's as if you are judging people who think 45 days for beating up a spouse is not long enough.

[Hugh Jahrmes]

45 days for this is a GD joke.

Anyone know what Ferland was facing if things hadn't worked out?

Sure we're all equal, it's 2015.. But beating a woman?

45 days?

Man..

Of course he got time off for good behaviour. I doubt he was within 20 feet of another inmate. PC squid tank unfortunately allows a guy like this to skip out on the "jury of your peers" decision that could have evened this sentence out a little.

Scumbag

[sureLoss]

@nathanfenno: FWIW, reports that Slava Voynov has been released from jail aren't correct. He remains in custody in Seal Beach. #lakings #NHL

[cannon7]

I'd like to see how some of you fare in a California prison for 45 days. But that's besides the point, his sentence was a judge's decision -- not ours. First time offender, par for the course. If the California penal code has enough sense to not throw the book at a first time offender, why can't CP posters?

[bax]

Originally Posted by cannon7

I'd like to see how some of you fare in a California prison for 45 days. But that's besides the point, his sentence was a judge's decision -- not ours. First time offender, par for the course. If the California penal code has enough sense to not throw the book at a first time offender, why can't CP posters?

Good point. I bet most CPer's aren't even tough enough to beat up a female. No way they could survive in prison like tough guy Slava...

[Locke]

Originally Posted by cannon7

I'd like to see how some of you fare in a California prison for 45 days. But that's besides the point, his sentence was a judge's decision -- not ours. First time offender, par for the course. If the California penal code has enough sense to not throw the book at a first time offender, why can't CP posters?

Not that I entirely disagree with you, I think the standard sentence for spousal abuse in the state of California is 4 years.

So he served about 3% of the standard sentence assuming the information that he was released is true.

[DJones]

Originally Posted by cannon7

I'd like to see how some of you fare in a California prison for 45 days. But that's besides the point, his sentence was a judge's decision -- not ours. First time offender, par for the course. If the California penal code has enough sense to not throw the book at a first time offender, why can't CP posters?

Especially when his wife refuses to co-operate. What else can you do?

It's actually remarkable that he served any time.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by cannon7

I'd like to see how some of you fare in a California prison for 45 days. But that's besides the point, his sentence was a judge's decision -- not ours. First time offender, par for the course. If the California penal code has enough sense to not throw the book at a first time offender, why can't CP posters?

Voynov is paying $100/day to stay at a luxury jail. He is not getting the average California prison experience.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sports...729-story.html

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...217801101.html

[automaton 3]

sureLossed

[codynw]

Originally Posted by cannon7

I'd like to see how some of you fare in a California prison for 45 days. But that's besides the point, his sentence was a judge's decision -- not ours. First time offender, par for the course. If the California penal code has enough sense to not throw the book at a first time offender, why can't CP posters?

His sentence was a joke. An average joe gets significantly more time for the same crime.

The perks of being rich and famous.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Locke

Not that I entirely disagree with you, I think the standard sentence for spousal abuse in the state of California is 4 years.

So he served about 3% of the standard sentence assuming the information that he was released is true.

He plead guilty to a misdemeanor, so the maximum is a year in jail.

A conviction for corporal injury on a spouse or domestic partner (CA PC 273.5d) can carry with it severe penalties, depending on whether the charge is filed as a misdemeanor or a felony. When determining how to pursue this type of case, prosecutors will consider:

1. The specific facts of your case;
2. The injuries suffered by the victim; and
3. Your criminal history.

If you are found guilty of a misdemeanor, you could face up to 364 days in county jail and/or a fine of up to $6,000. Other potential punishment includes:

A felony charge is more with the maximum being four years.

f you are found in violation of a felony under CA PC 273.5d, you could be sent to jail for up to four years and face a fine of up to $6,000. If you have been previously convicted for battery, sexual battery or other types of aggravated assault, you will face up to five years in state prison. The prison sentence could be extended if the victim was seriously hurt.

https://www.wklaw.com/corporal-injur...entencing.html