[Rumour] Boomer: Flames are kicking tires to trade up to #2. Draisaitl might be the target.

[Enoch Root]

^ agreed

[username]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

but couldn't the above be said about Gretzky? I mean were any of his skills that imposing?

Yes they were

[mile]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I agree 100 per cent. Reinhart will be a good player in the NHL. But I have my doubts he will be a number once centre, or a guy who can make a big impact in big games at the NHL level. If you're as soft as Reinhart you better be fast. I've seen comments that he doesn't play with a lot of passion. And that scares me, because it matches his dad's demeanour - smart, skilled, but when things heated up on the ice he lost his edge. Draisatl has an NHL toolkit and more upside. Bennet brings more speed and grit. I prefer both of them to Reinhart.

If he didn't play with a lot of passion I doubt he would ranked as highly as he was. I've never read any concerns about his passion for the game.

Isn't it possible that he is simply a quiet leader who leads by example? In the playoffs he carried the Ice (the underdogs) past the Hitmen and elevated his game when it mattered.

Just because his dad's demeanor was that doesn't necessarily make it a reflection of his son's. I don't disagree with your preference for the other two over him, but I've never heard questions about passion.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by mile

And Monahan as well (other than size)

I don't understand the comparison to RNH at all - Reinhart looks to be a much more complete player than RNH is. When you think the game at the level Toews does you don't necessarily need to have great speed, size, or shot to become an elite passer or scorer - and I see that in Reinhart.

Yes I think Reinhart is very similar to Monahan but smaller/weaker. Draisaitl is also similar to Monahan in some ways. Which is why I think Bennett is the most unique of the three for us as he brings greater speed and grit than the other two. The Flames want to add size and speed. Bennett provides the best speed. Draisaitl the best size. But they'll take the best player regardless of that.

[Righteous1]

I've seen one highlight video of Draisatl and was sold on him. The kid has size, protects the puck well, has some slick saucer passes/playmaking ability and can shoot the puck. Looked a bit heavy on his feet. I'm okay with Flames taking him, whether it be 1st overall or 4th.

[djsFlames]

Reinhart is not similar to Monahan.

Really? Come on.

[Dion]

The cost to move up in the draft is going to be high and I don't see the Flames trading away picks and or prospects to get the #2 pick. We are going to get a very good player at #4 anyway.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by mile

I don't understand the comparison to RNH at all - Reinhart looks to be a much more complete player than RNH is.

Don't mistake what he is from what he could be. Virtually everything said about Reinhart was said about RHN. RNH was supposed to be complete elite. We will never know how that might have turned out elsewhere, so it's not helpful for us fans.

[SHOGUN]

Tod Button said they're debating the order of 4 and 5... meaning that they having discussions of who should be at 4 on their list. This scares me a bit... that means some people believe that Ritchie (Conroy said Ritchie was in the group of their consensus 5) is ahead of either Ekblad, Reinhart, Bennett or Draisaitl. It means there is a possibility that if the Flames first 3 players are taken on their list, they take Ritchie.

[mile]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Reinhart is not similar to Monahan.

Really? Come on.

Comparing the two is perfectly valid - They're both not flashy, not fast, and lack an elite standout skill in their game except for hockey sense.

No two players are exactly similar to one another - but there are some similarities between the two.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by SHOGUN

Tod Button said they're debating the order of 4 and 5... meaning that they having discussions of who should be at 4 on their list. This scares me a bit... that means some people believe that Ritchie (Conroy said Ritchie was in the group of their consensus 5) is ahead of either Ekblad, Reinhart, Bennett or Draisaitl. It means there is a possibility that if the Flames first 3 players are taken on their list, they take Ritchie.

I might tend towards both Ritchie and MDC myself over Reinhart....... but I only read articles and watch youtube so I'm not expert.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Reinhart is not similar to Monahan.

Really? Come on.

Huh? How are they not similar? Both high hockey IQ guys. Neither guy is a speedster. Both good goal scorers and passers. Neither are bangers.

Seem very similar to me with Monahan being slightly bigger.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Huh? How are they not similar? Both high hockey IQ guys. Neither guy is a speedster. Both good goal scorers and passers. Neither are bangers.

Seem very similar to me with Monahan being slightly bigger.

I don't recall Monahan being called 'brainiac' or 'hockey genius' in his draft year but rather 'good, all around 2-way center'.

[BurningSteel]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Reinhart is not similar to Monahan.

Really? Come on.

Ok. They both have vowels and consonant's in their names.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

I might tend towards both Ritchie and MDC myself over Reinhart....... but I only read articles and watch youtube so I'm not expert.

When the talent levels are close (and by most Reinhart is more talented anyways), always draft the centre.

Good teams have great centre depth.

Draft the centre. The only way I'll be disappointed tomorrow is if we draft a winger at 4.

[TheDebaser]

Originally Posted by Rick M.

I don't recall Monahan being called 'brainiac' or 'hockey genius' in his draft year but rather 'good, all around 2-way center'.

"Hockey Sense" was practically his middle name.

http://www.defendingbigd.com/2013/6/...t-sean-monahan

[19Yzerman19]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

He lacks elite speed, isn't particularly physical, doesn't have elite size. Saw a comparison today to Adam Oates. Oates was a great player and a top line centre but there's type of centres I would've take over Oates in his prime.

I'm just saying, if you draft a guy in the top 3 and he goes on to score 1400+ points while being recognized as among the best playmakers in history I'd say you've done pretty damned well for yourself.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Rick M.

I don't recall Monahan being called 'brainiac' or 'hockey genius' in his draft year but rather 'good, all around 2-way center'.

Maybe he wasn't referred to as a genius, but here are some quotes from a quick Google search of pre-draft scouting reports for Monahan:

"Monahan is a smart two-way player"
"Monahan regularly shows the ability to slow the game down."
"Undoubtedly Monahan’s best attributes are his playmaking ability and vision."

[Enoch Root]

weren't he and McKinnon the top 2 for hockey IQ?

[mile]

Originally Posted by Rick M.

I don't recall Monahan being called 'brainiac' or 'hockey genius' in his draft year but rather 'good, all around 2-way center'.

In addition to the above comments, Red Line rated his hockey sense as an A+ and his best attribute.