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[strombad]

Originally Posted by WilderPegasus

What if they're an addict? Isn't addiction an illness and not a choice? Should we protest countries who jail addicts for drug possession?

Well I believe he said DEALERS. Plus, nobody starts as an addict. They become one over time. If you're gay, you were born gay. The issue here is the jailing and prosecution of people who are born a certain way. If you can't see the difference between that, and people who consume illegal substances to the point of addiction, then it's on you. Plus, it's been proven that marijuana does not have addictive substances, and that at worst, people do it habitually. This is unlike real addiction of course, where symptoms of withdrawal and other serious mental side effects accompany the addiction, but that's a whole other conversation.

[strombad]

Plus, you can cure addiction. You can't 'cure' being a homosexual. In your faaaaace.

[theTrumanShow]

I say NO! We don't need to be promoting this agenda at a sporting event. Quite frankly, I am sick of this being pushed down everyone's throat. What you do in the bedroom should stay there and there only.

[DionTheDman]

Originally Posted by theTrumanShow

I say NO! We don't need to be promoting this agenda at a sporting event. Quite frankly, I am sick of this being pushed down everyone's throat. What you do in the bedroom should stay there and there only.

In an ideal world, yes, but "we" aren't the ones making the issue public, the Russians are.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by theTrumanShow

I say NO! We don't need to be promoting this agenda at a sporting event. Quite frankly, I am sick of this being pushed down everyone's throat. What you do in the bedroom should stay there and there only.

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.

I am not gay, but I will stand up and loudly proclaim for their rights to life and liberty. I am not a woman, and I stand up loud for their rights. HUMAN rights. Not gay rights, not women's rights. HUMAN rights. And if you think it doesn't affect you, remember this is exactly what the germans thought in the 30's and 40's.

[You Need a Thneed]

this thread is just going around in circles at this point.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

this thread is just going around in circles at this point.

True, but on each lap we get confirmation of another scumbag so I'm okay with it.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

this thread is just going around in circles at this point.

Pretty much. Or korzym12 paid $5 to theTrumanShow to come in and troll everyone.

Originally Posted by theTrumanShow

I say NO! We don't need to be promoting this agenda at a sporting event. Quite frankly, I am sick of this being pushed down everyone's throat. What you do in the bedroom should stay there and there only.

Oh may gawd. You are so insightful. I am glad you are hear to say NO to something. I didn't realize that the Olympics was a sporting event, I always thought it was so much more!

You are totally right, people should just let what happens in the privacy of someone's bedroom be a non-issue. Russians everywhere should wake up to this realization and say "wow, theTrumanShow, you really said that in such a way that we will no longer form mobs to ambush and assault gay people, our government will now prosecute people who do such terrible things and reverse the laws that we have that make being gay illegal".

If only you had come along sooner, we could have ended this entire debate ages ago. Now you can just think about the next thing that is being pushed down everyone's throat. Unless it is in the bedroom, then you better just let it stay there.

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by Fozzie_DeBear

if you kiss your significant other in Russia nothing happens. If a person who is gay does it they go to jail.

This is not true at all. You should do your homework before starting threads like this.

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Who are you to tell other people that they should be ashamed of themselves because they have certain opinion on certain thing, which is very debatable at the least?

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by Wolven

Russia's new anti-gay laws are just as bad as Hitler's decision to ban certain people from being allowed to participate. Anyone performing any act that is deemed gay (two men holding hands) can be put in jail. If the offending people are not Russian then they will be jailed for 14 days without appeal prior to being deported. If they are Russian they can be sentenced for their crime - of holding hands.

Quoted for false. This is as inaccurate, as saying that Edmonton won the cup last season.

[Devils'Advocate]

Originally Posted by Pointman

This is not true at all. You should do your homework before starting threads like this.

Okay. As someone that actually IS in Russia, I'd love to hear how this is not true. Is it not true that a kiss between a homosexual couple could be construed as "homosexual propoganda" and be cause for an arrest?

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Pointman

Who are you to tell other people that they should be ashamed of themselves because they have certain opinion on certain thing, which is very debatable at the least?

What's debatable? That everyone should be granted basic human rights? No, sorry, that's not debatable.

[Devils'Advocate]

Originally Posted by Pointman

Quoted for false. This is as inaccurate, as saying that Edmonton won the cup last season.

You are very contrarian but provide nothing of substance in return. And there is absolutely nothing debatable about gay rights.

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I am appalled at this law, and Putin and the citizens of Russia should be ashamed of themselves.

Have you read the law? Yes or no? If no, are you comfortable saying that 140 millions of people should be ashamed of themselves because of the law that you haven't even read?

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

Okay. As someone that actually IS in Russia, I'd love to hear how this is not true. Is it not true that a kiss between a homosexual couple could be construed as "homosexual propoganda" and be cause for an arrest?

From what i read its that they don't want minors to receive " homosexual propoganda". It sounds more like they don't want gay parades or gay support groups to encourage minors that being gay is okay. Could be wrong.

I for one do not believe what they are doing is correct but i don't think it is as bad as kissing in public gets you jail time.

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

Okay. As someone that actually IS in Russia, I'd love to hear how this is not true. Is it not true that a kiss between a homosexual couple could be construed as "homosexual propoganda" and be cause for an arrest?

Yes, it is not true.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Pointman

Have you read the law? Yes or no? If no, are you comfortable that 140 millions of people should be ashamed of themselves because of the law that you haven't even read?

Anyone who supports the law should be ashamed of themselves, which apparently includes you.

Another name to the list.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Pointman

Yes, it is not true.

BS, the law is incredibly vague and could very well be applied to that. But of course you'd be able to defend yourself in court, unfortunately that court is in Russia where the concept of justice doesn't exist.

[Pointman]

If you put this

http://lenta.ru/news/2013/06/06/project/

into google translater, you will get a relatively accurate picture (way more accurate than the one you have now) about this law. I skimmed through how google transaltes it and it's more or less correct.