iPhone vs Android

[Superflyer]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

ahhhhhhhh i finally see! Man if anyone ever invented a USB plug that would work either way they would be effing rich!

The Flipper USB connector from UltraTek can plug into computer ports in either orientations, upside or downside. The patented design has several advantages over the traditional non-flip-able USB devices. Users simply plug in their USB device without looking, trying, thinking or guessing. It simply just works with no second attempt.

http://www.electronics-eetimes.com/e..._id=222902730#

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Umm dude how am i wrong? I know that there are no USB 3.0 ports on the new android, but the Oilyfan was saying talking up this new lightning cable like it was God. Fact is that cable does the same cables from 6-7 years ago did. It's USB 2.0.

Clever? hahaha. well my old obsolete phone cable from 4 years ago can still charge my brand new phone. and it does the same thing as the lightning cable...

Pretty ridiculous eh? haha

I didn't say you were wrong. Re-read my post for confirmation.

Your delivery is terrible though. You keep picking and picking until it doesn't matter what you say because people are fed up with the way you say it. Sometimes your smugness makes me want to punch you through the Internet.

Whoop de do, you can charge your phone with an old cable. Big frickin deal. Good for you.

If you can't see how a connector that dynamically assigns routings and can be oriented in either fashion is an improvement then you are never going to see it.

Apple could cure cancer and you'd complain that they didn't do it fast enough.

You're like a broken record that keeps skipping and it's very reminiscent of a child who complains for the sake of complaining.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

ahhhhhhhh i finally see! Man if anyone ever invented a USB plug that would work either way they would be effing rich!

You know, I think I see your point. How dare Apple make a cable that makes my life easier, they should have given me a more inconvenient cable to show that they are better.

Now I have to buy all new cables because my old ones were mini-USB.

Speaking of which, how dare Samsung use a micro-USB adapter when I have mini-USB plugs! ######tards! If I went with an S3 I'd have to buy all new cables.

Seriously though, you own a Samsung and take advantage of using old cables. Others like the new Lightning plug and the fact they don't have to fiddle with it. Not everyone buying the iPhone has all the accessories, some are upgrading from other phones (like me).

At the end of the day, why do you care?

[Azure]

Originally Posted by KTrain

Also, at one point do you want the switch to a new technology to occur? It's never going to be convenient for everyone.

Personally I would have been fine with them waiting till inductive charging was more advanced and incorporating that. No cables at all is the way to go but I think we're many years away from inductive charging and wireless transfers being as quick as cabled.

Well if they would have used new technology instead of sticking with USB 2.0 you would have a point.

The connector is cool and all, but it isn't exactly 'new.' Its just the same idea in a different form. Which is exactly what Apple does a lot of.

[KTrain]

If they switched from USB 2.0 how many computers wouldn't be able to access their device?

They still need to cater to the majority.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Azure

Well if they would have used new technology instead of sticking with USB 2.0 you would have a point.

The connector is cool and all, but it isn't exactly 'new.' Its just the same idea in a different form. Which is exactly what Apple does a lot of.

Given that the sustained read/write speeds of the flash memory in iPhones fall within USB 2.0's limits, I'm not sure why you think they should've gone with different technology on the computer's end.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by KTrain

If they switched from USB 2.0 how many computers wouldn't be able to access their device?

They still need to cater to the majority.

USB 3.0 is backwards compatible with any device that can use USB 2.0. So it would still work for the majority of consumers.

And saying that it still falls well without the demands of the iPhone is rather lame considering you have to push the envelope if you want to stay at the top.

If you want to say that USB 2.0 is good enough for most, well then MicroUSB is as well.

Personally as much as I hate the micro USB connector, it is nice to be able to charge most phones with it. I've often had to borrow one from a friend when I forgot mine.

[Azure]

So, users complaining about battery life in the other thread.

LTE shouldn't be that big of a problem. What are Android users getting on the same LTE network?

Ken was saying he got 8.5 hours. That sounds horrid. I can get 24 hours easily with zero cell coverage and everything on. But I don't have LTE.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Azure

USB 3.0 is backwards compatible with any device that can use USB 2.0. So it would still work for the majority of consumers.

And saying that it still falls well without the demands of the iPhone is rather lame considering you have to push the envelope if you want to stay at the top.

If you want to say that USB 2.0 is good enough for most, well then MicroUSB is as well.

Personally as much as I hate the micro USB connector, it is nice to be able to charge most phones with it. I've often had to borrow one from a friend when I forgot mine.

What's stopping them from introducing USB 3.0 cables when the read/write speeds on their phones warrants it? As far as I can tell, nothing.

Can you not see how it would be pointless to introduce faster transfer speeds when the NAND chip inside the iPhone can't even saturate a USB 2.0 connection?

[oilyfan]

How is a reversible single connector the same thing in a different form?

[Azure]

I fail to see a point in developing a new connector at all if the write speeds aren't increased.

Can it charge the phone faster?

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Azure

LTE shouldn't be that big of a problem.

Really? Everything I have ever seen is that LTE is like a starving fat kid in a candy store on battery life.

[KTrain]

Azure, I was referring to your "Its just the same idea in a different form. Which is exactly what Apple does a lot of." comment.

They're not going to deviate from USB by creating something totally new like Thunderbolt. All computers use USB so if they attempted to innovate like you expect them to, they would alienate a lot of consumers.

If they came out with a cable using USB 3.0 you would have the same comment too. "That's not innovative. They're just repurposing existing technology. Which is exactly what Apple does a lot of."

[Azure]

Originally Posted by chemgear

Really? Everything I have ever seen is that LTE is like a starving fat kid in a candy store on battery life.

If you're within a service area there is absolutely no reason why a phone should only last a few hours on LTE.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Azure

I fail to see a point in developing a new connector at all if the write speeds aren't increased.

Because it's smaller, reversible, and adaptable to future technologies.

The bottleneck for read/write speeds on phones are the internals and the limits of mobile flash memory right now, not the connection interface. Introducing USB 3.0 for this iteration of the iPhone 5 just for the sake of it would've been a waste of time and money. It'd be like worrying about how your ethernet speeds affect your internet usage when you have a dialup connection.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by KTrain

Azure, I was referring to your "Its just the same idea in a different form. Which is exactly what Apple does a lot of." comment.

They're not going to deviate from USB by creating something totally new like Thunderbolt. All computers use USB so if they attempted to innovate like you expect them to, they would alienate a lot of consumers.

If they came out with a cable using USB 3.0 you would have the same comment too. "That's not innovative. They're just repurposing existing technology. Which is exactly what Apple does a lot of."

Well that is exactly what they did. Sure, its more sturdy, but the whole thing reeks of a huge money grab.

I can modify my microUSB charger in about 20 min to make it charge my phone faster. I'm sure if Apple would have wanted too they could have come up with something similar.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by opendoor

Because it's smaller, reversible, and adaptable to future technologies.

Adaptable in a way that doesn't require the consumer to spend more money?

Smaller and reversible sounds great.

[Azure]

Apple's decision to ship its own mapping system in the iPhone 5 and iOS 6 was made over a year before the company's agreement to use Google Maps expired, according to two independent sources familiar with the matter. The decision, made sometime before Apple's WWDC event in June, sent Google scrambling to develop an iOS Google Maps app — an app which both sources say is still incomplete and currently not scheduled to ship for several months.

But the existing deal between the two companies was still valid and didn't have any additional requirements, according to our sources — Apple decided to simply end it and ship the new maps with turn-by-turn.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/25/34...e-maps-ios-app

[brosnan]

Any Nokia user outta there?

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Reaper

I didn't say you were wrong. Re-read my post for confirmation.

Your delivery is terrible though. You keep picking and picking until it doesn't matter what you say because people are fed up with the way you say it. Sometimes your smugness makes me want to punch you through the Internet.

Whoop de do, you can charge your phone with an old cable. Big frickin deal. Good for you.

If you can't see how a connector that dynamically assigns routings and can be oriented in either fashion is an improvement then you are never going to see it.

Apple could cure cancer and you'd complain that they didn't do it fast enough.

You're like a broken record that keeps skipping and it's very reminiscent of a child who complains for the sake of complaining.

Holy crap. you sound like a bible thumper. This is what apple has on people. it's almost like a religion. Snicker at them because they 'reinvented' a usb 2.0 cable and get a cleansed... hahahaa.

If apple cured cancer they would make you leave a traditional hospital, go into some modern looking white walled modern looking building with curved walls and charge you double for the treatment.