Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[BlackArcher101]

Then there's the fact that per the Clarity Act, the House of Commons has to deem that the question is clear and result in a clear expression of will by the population. If they deem it not to, no negotiations would be entered into for the secession.

[#-3]

We should get a poll thread going for how many signatures they claim to get. never mind how many are accepted.

I'm gonna go with, 83,000. But I also bet if anyone bothers looking into it, almost half with be duplicates, because these unscrupulous people, might be to stupid to understand the rules that they are only allowed to sign once, and don't really care about democratic fraud, that just something they say when they think it helps them.

it will be functionally unprovable, but that's my guess they claim 83,000, and if ever audited they find less than 50,000.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by #-3

We should get a poll thread going for how many signatures they claim to get. never mind how many are accepted.

I'm gonna go with, 83,000. But I also bet if anyone bothers looking into it, almost half with be duplicates, because these unscrupulous people, might be to stupid to understand the rules that they are only allowed to sign once, and don't really care about democratic fraud, that just something they say when they think it helps them.

it will be functionally unprovable, but that's my guess they claim 83,000, and if ever audited they find less than 50,000.

What do you mean if anyone bothers looking into it? That is very clear part of the whole process and Elections Alberta will bother to look at the signatures and they have methodology in place to affirm the signature total. That methodology was used to verify the previous petitions. Do you not believe in the capacity of Elections Alberta to verify the signatures?

[#-3]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

What do you mean if anyone bothers looking into it? That is very clear part of the whole process and Elections Alberta will bother to look at the signatures and they have methodology in place to affirm the signature total. That methodology was used to verify the previous petitions. Do you not believe in the capacity of Elections Alberta to verify the signatures?

Basically I am predicting that with substantial wrong doing and fraud they will reach roughly half of the reduced total required, so elections Alberta would not validate signatures and it would be irresponsible to throw and bunch of resources at it to affirm they are failures, when they could just announce right away that the separatists are failures. But again, this is just my prediction.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by #-3

Basically I am predicting that with substantial wrong doing and fraud they will reach roughly half of the reduced total required, so elections Alberta would not validate signatures and it would be irresponsible to throw and bunch of resources at it to affirm they are failures, when they could just announce right away that the separatists are failures. But again, this is just my prediction.

How is Elections Alberta going to determine that it is a failure without going through the exercise of validating signatures? You want our public institutions to just go off a hunch?

[puffnstuff]

They interviewed a seperatist supporter, just a short sound bite
Paraphrasing but went like this 'if the 70% dont like it(seperation) they can just leave, BC and Sask are open for them'

Alrighty then math and democracy genius...

[Slava]

Originally Posted by #-3

We should get a poll thread going for how many signatures they claim to get. never mind how many are accepted.

I'm gonna go with, 83,000. But I also bet if anyone bothers looking into it, almost half with be duplicates, because these unscrupulous people, might be to stupid to understand the rules that they are only allowed to sign once, and don't really care about democratic fraud, that just something they say when they think it helps them.

it will be functionally unprovable, but that's my guess they claim 83,000, and if ever audited they find less than 50,000.

You think they’re going to claim 83,000? I’d take the over on that all day. They need 177,000 and they think they’re going to get a million. The claimed amount is going to much higher than 83,000.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

How is Elections Alberta going to determine that it is a failure without going through the exercise of validating signatures? You want our public institutions to just go off a hunch?

If the separatists don't claim to have 177,000 Elections Alberta can just confirm the failure, without counting.